• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 day ago

    Religion is cool. This week I learned from an Indigenous teacher how to talk to the Rainbow Serpent. See, I believe in the gods of all religions. I think it’s a kinder way to be equal.

    The Romans invented the practice of conquering a people and converting them to your own religion. At first they used syncretism, but then they converted to Christianity and invented the practice of denying other religions. Before Rome, people didn’t do that, people believed in all religions.

    Now that we live in a post Roman world, a lot of people only know the Roman way of doing things. A lot of people want equality, but instead of believing in all religions, they think the equal thing to do is destroy all religions. Destroy so many people’s culture. That’s what equality is thought of in a post Roman world. The Romans fucked us all up, man.

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      1 day ago

      The Romans invented the practice of conquering a people and converting them to your own religion. At first they used syncretism, but then they converted to Christianity and invented the practice of denying other religions. Before Rome, people didn’t do that, people believed in all religions.

      Well that’s simply not historically true at all. About the Romans or other cultures before them.

      Also it’s a cute sentiment to suggest that you believe in all religions. But that’s not actually possible. Many religions are wholly incompatible. Hell many denominations of Christianity are incompatible. You can’t believe in karmic reincarnation and in the Christian afterlife. You can’t believe as the Norse myth says, that the world was formed of the body of a giant, Ymir, killed by Odin and his brothers, and the Egyptian myth that a god masturated and/or sneezed and spat two gods into existence who mated to form the earth and sky. You can’t believe in the one true God, Allah, the Greek Pantheon, and the non-personified Dao. Not all of these basic tenets of these religions can be true simultaneously.

      So either, you’re lying, your understanding of world religions is incredibly limited, or you just cherry pick whatever you like from whatever religion you like and pretend you have even half coherent beliefs in the end.

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        I don’t believe in the exclusionary parts, like “you shall have no other gods before me”. But I do believe in all the creation stories.

        Hindus reincarnate and Christians go to heaven and hell. Norway was formed from the body of Ymir. Egypt’s land and sky were formed by a couple sneezes getting busy. I don’t believe Ilah should be called Al-Ilah (Allah), because that’s an asshole thing to call a god. But I do believe in Zeus and the Tao.

        The mistake you’re making is trying to fit all of these beliefs into a single universe. If you believe that each culture has its own universe and that we have the ability to travel this multiverse by changing our cultural perspective, it gets way easier.

            • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              3 hours ago

              The drugs that made you go spiritually nuts. How would any sane mind come up with all those fantasy stories and BELIEVE them to be true? We call those delusions.

              But anyhow, seems like you’re already too deep into it to just take a step backwards and look at the box you’ve made yourself to sit in.

                • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  2 hours ago

                  Insane is nothing inherently bad though. But ignoring reality and choosing fantasy sure can’t be healthy. At least not in the long run.

                  • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    22 minutes ago

                    Well that depends on the kind of fantasy. A lot of people choose a fantasy that’s only good for them. But I choose a fantasy engineered for justice and fairness. I perceive everyone how they want to be perceived. Trans people, otherkin, plural people. I know a guy named Sonic who died in a war on his home planet and reincarnated in someone else’s body on Earth. Now he lives in that being’s head. I’m not gonna judge Sonic, because that would be mean. I genuinely believe he’s a hedgehog, because he identifies as a hedgehog. I don’t even like Sonic the hedgehog as a franchise that much. I think the games kinda suck because a high score is more about memorisation than reflexes. But seeing Sonic how he wants to be seen is fair and just, so I choose to perceive him that way. A realist wouldn’t likely be capable of that kindness. That’s why realism is oppressive.

    • DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Yeah there should be something like just… Beliefs? Sure, whatever floats your boat? But there is quite some stupid shit and indoctrination built into it that im not sure if the community-is-good-idea of religion weights up against the shitty stuff? But if you just keep it to yourself, why not

      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 hours ago

        Belief is silly, but harmless. It’s like a wiener. Nice to have one as long as you don’t start slinging it in other people’s faces. The harm is only done to oneself.

        Religion though is the worst. I despise it and everyone fallen for it. It is just a means to control the dimwitted and weak. And it drags this world back into the dumb ages.

        Like Voltaire said: “Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities”.