Ah yes, breeding sentient creatures to murder thousands and thousands of generations, is better than killing one generation. Is anyone actually moronic enough to get convinced by this argument?
Also, that’s assuming that if everyone stopped eating meat all at once (huh) then we would decide to kill the cows rather than to let them live. So humanity as a whole suddenly grew a conscience, and yet they go murder hobo on the cows for no valid reason.
The funny thing about anti-vegans is that you don’t need to ever ask if they’re anti-vegan, they’ll slap you in the face with fallacies that make Trump look smart.
Who said anything about murdering the cows? This comic has only stated that their genetic deformities will prevent them from surviving without human assistance. Letting them live is the same as killing them.
The most common understanding of genocide is purposfully exterminating the population. It does not matter how it dies out. If it all the subjects are killed, sterilized, purposfully mixed with other population or sent to space. Noone has to die for a genocide to occur.
So we are not discussing: killing a generation vs. killing multiple generations.
But rather: exterminating a specie vs killing members of that specie but maintaining a population.
One is “crime” against specific subjects and the other is “crime” against a group.
Casting a judgment on which is worse is however not something I would do.
But If I try to imagine…
…even if my life would be hard as hell… I would probably still prefer being born as to not exist at all… Having a consciousness is one of a kind experience…
Also cows of my uncle have it quite nice. All day wandering inside a huge fence, having a lot to eat, hang out with their kids… Cows do not have a freedom to leave, but they have everything else. To me it seems a better life than lots of humans. For example take a young wife of a rich oligarch. She cannot leave, but she has anything that she needs.
what industrial meat, egg or milk production or similar situation have you been in?
tbf these animals’ lives are not “hard” really, they get all the food, growth hormones and antibiotics they need, they just don’t really get to move. oh and they get forcefully impregnated and every offspring gets taken away, or if that’s not possible, (ie male or infertile) they get killed, in the house where all the blood and screaming is
btw previously i was referring to chickens, they grind up male chicks alive because they don’t need as many
Ah yes, breeding sentient creatures to murder thousands and thousands of generations, is better than killing one generation. Is anyone actually moronic enough to get convinced by this argument?
Also, that’s assuming that if everyone stopped eating meat all at once (huh) then we would decide to kill the cows rather than to let them live. So humanity as a whole suddenly grew a conscience, and yet they go murder hobo on the cows for no valid reason.
The funny thing about anti-vegans is that you don’t need to ever ask if they’re anti-vegan, they’ll slap you in the face with fallacies that make Trump look smart.
What ‘argument’, it’s satire.
And it’s an argument that people actually use, whether this comic is satire or not. I’ve even seen a bunch of people using it on lemmy.
Who said anything about murdering the cows? This comic has only stated that their genetic deformities will prevent them from surviving without human assistance. Letting them live is the same as killing them.
The most common understanding of genocide is purposfully exterminating the population. It does not matter how it dies out. If it all the subjects are killed, sterilized, purposfully mixed with other population or sent to space. Noone has to die for a genocide to occur.
So we are not discussing: killing a generation vs. killing multiple generations. But rather: exterminating a specie vs killing members of that specie but maintaining a population.
One is “crime” against specific subjects and the other is “crime” against a group.
Casting a judgment on which is worse is however not something I would do.
But I do think people of nationalities with rough histories are thankful that only their ancestors suffered and the nation as a whole still exists.
However most do not have to die when they grow up…
But I think, I would rather lived until grow up and I get eaten as compared to never have existed at all…
how about getting ground up at the ripe age of 1 day old?
I do not know. I was never in that situation.
But If I try to imagine… …even if my life would be hard as hell… I would probably still prefer being born as to not exist at all… Having a consciousness is one of a kind experience…
Also cows of my uncle have it quite nice. All day wandering inside a huge fence, having a lot to eat, hang out with their kids… Cows do not have a freedom to leave, but they have everything else. To me it seems a better life than lots of humans. For example take a young wife of a rich oligarch. She cannot leave, but she has anything that she needs.
what industrial meat, egg or milk production or similar situation have you been in?
tbf these animals’ lives are not “hard” really, they get all the food, growth hormones and antibiotics they need, they just don’t really get to move. oh and they get forcefully impregnated and every offspring gets taken away, or if that’s not possible, (ie male or infertile) they get killed, in the house where all the blood and screaming is
btw previously i was referring to chickens, they grind up male chicks alive because they don’t need as many
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