• cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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    Kinda fuck Meta employees tho fr

    Boo fucking hoo, psychos, you know exactly what rideyou signed up for. Kinda like this from Zuck tbh even tho hes a complete ghoul. Meta workers are not on the right side of the billionaire/labor dichotomy

    I hope their fucking stocks fail to vest or whatever. Fuckem

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      I saw an interview with some anonymized meta employees and all of them knew they were doing fucked up stuff. Then they said they were doing it for the stocks the company give them after x years worth millions.

      So yeah, fuck them.

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      You do realize that the problem is that people need money? Yea, many would likely have a choice where to work but many might Not have had options.

      What is needed is financial basic freedom for everyone. Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.

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        Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.

        Yeah, they already did that, and “slavery by design” is what they came up with.

        The next time, we don’t consult our country, we force them to do what WE want.

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        Dunno man, there is nothing they do at Meta that is in anyway considered “good”, or is there?

        I mean, looking at the recent posts about ICE hiring with bonus, you’d think taking that offer is also fine when you need money?

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            There’s no difference when the tech company is used to push propaganda supporting the SS and the workers don’t stand up to it. They are complicit and therefore responsible.

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        That’s bullshit. Almost all meta hires are poached, and they’re not coming for you if you’re not in a position to make good money.

        The vast majority of these people chose to leave an already cushy job to get in there.

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          I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?

          Isn’t that the issue? We’ve created a system where you need money to live, and basically if you buy food and have a place to live you contribute to a system of exploitation.

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            I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?

            But that’s not the real scenario. Monstruous companies aren’t the only jobs around. There’s a bajillion smaller and more ethical companies that hire the same kind of profiles as Meta.

            Also the mega-corporations tend to not poach small fish from each other. Sure they’ll go after each other’s top performers but there’s a tacit agreement that “normal workers” are not fair game.

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              Clearly you have not been looking for a job lately. I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months. It’s bad out there, especially for the tech industry.

              Idk why you want to fight the worker and not the corporations

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                I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months

                If that is the case then Meta probably won’t touch their resume with a 10-ft pole.

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          You do know that meta doesn’t only have high level jobs, right? There cannot just be middle managers everywhere without the bog standard workers.

          What kind of perception do you have of tech giants? That all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?

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            meta doesn’t only have high level jobs

            The majority of their hires are experienced profiles. “Bog standard” worker in Meta is already a pretty high paying job as entry level work is massively outsourced.

            all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?

            That’s not at all what i’m saying. I’m saying if you can land a job at Meta then you can absolutely find a job elsewhere. There is nobody in the world who is stuck between an empty belly and accepting a position at Meta. They’re just stuck between making good money somewhere, and making better money at Meta.

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            Noooo everyone at meta is making at minimum 300,000 a year.

            They poach their janitors

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      Why stop there? Fuck all employees of the owning class. How dare they be employed

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          While I do generally agree, there are a LOT of companies that have their own special kind of evil, and ultimately if people are choosing between being employed and working for one, they will work for one. There simply aren’t enough ethical jobs for the number of people who would prefer to work for ethical companies

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            Its not a dichotomy. Its a spectrum. Meta, palantir they are at the bad end.

            Nobody working at facebook has any illusions that they work at a company that helps people make connections and express themselves online. They know its a manipulation machine that oversteps its boundaries, constantly, hoovering up their data. They are also well paid, so its not bread line or facebook. Its a choice.

            Many are starting to wake up, but the damage is done. So, its also perfectly reasonable for anyone to not feel sorry for them, if their choice to screw over the world ended up being less beneficial to them than they hoped. That doesnt mean they deserve vitriol or they had it coming.

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              Couple things.

              Firstly; just because they are well-paid does not imply they have the means to survive without employment. In fact that places them far closer to you and I than to somebody capable of living solely off the labor of others. Additionally, large tech companies utilize H1B visas as a form of coercion for both the visa holder and the other employees.

              Secondly; you open your first paragraph with

              Nobody working at facebook has any illusions

              But open paragraph #2 with

              Many are starting to wake up

              Those two statements contradict each other.

              That’s not my point, though! My point is; blame the goddamn reptilian tech bro billionaire and the shareholders. Blame the government that allows Meta to exist at all. Blame the dysfunctional and cancerous-at-best socioeconomic systems that allow either to exist.

              Or, to put it more succinctly; don’t hate the player, hate the game.

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                Being aware it’s not what they present themselves as is not the same as realising you’re helping fascists and genocides.

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              The world isn’t black and white. I work for a company that’s been around for over a decade. We work with hospitals to improve operational efficiency. This leads to safer outcomes for patients, better working conditions for staff, and less wasted time or money.

              We recently signed a limited contract with palantir for a certain software data structure. It’s limited the very specific things. I’m not happy about the contract, but I’m still proud of what I do. I’ve been in different hospitals with and without our company. It’s a big difference and it can literally save lives.

              Should I quit then spend months looking for a new job in an economy currently with a very high unemployment rate just because someone online thinks the world is black and white?

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                lol, what part of saying it’s a spectrum makes you think it’s black and white. We all make decisions based on our interest, and we all have a line. You seem to have gotten closer to yours.

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          Only because they’re in a position to be. Lots of other companies/execs would literally kill to be in the same position. They’re not not pieces of shit out of the kindness of their hearts, it’s because they don’t have the power to be.

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        If you’re willing to defend Meta employees on those grounds you’ve got to be willing to give ICE employees a pass too.

        Facebook and the other meta companies have done AT LEAST as much damage to society. MORE when you consider they’re ALSO partly responsible for ICE.

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          facebook is actually the first to do the most damage, by being one of the sole platform for russian backed propaganda to bring people into conservatism. boomers/gen x are the users.

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            It’s the company they keep and the crimes they enable with their support. You don’t have to be running the gas chambers to know what managing the punchcards is doing.

            I was a 6 figure FAANG level employee in the early aughts doing consulting/development, realized I was contributing to predatory lending, quit, and took a 15k a year teaching job overseas instead. If I’d not made that choice, I wouldn’t consider someone who held me personally responsible at some level for the financial crisis to be out of line.

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          Can you explain that last part about them being partly responsable for ICE? ICE has existed for a few years before Facebook was even founded, and they were also evil back then.

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            They were evil but constrained and minor. Their current power is the direct result of the anti-immigrant flames social media like Facebook have been fanning with their algorithms for years.

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        you don’t choose to work in a factory, but as a sw eng myself, you definitely choose to work in a faang corp. fuck the owning classes but remind the faang workers they’re trying to become the next owner and betraying the working class at the same time.

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      When the billionaires own everything you have no choice to work anywhere else.