• spacegoat@lemmy.world
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    The biggest offenders are pseudo-intellectuals ie objectivists and other conservatives who simultaneously villainize academia and claim an unfounded monopoly on rationalism and logic.

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    Honestly, it’s exhausting on the ego, though, because I constantly question myself and I’m aware of how much I don’t know. From the outside, that does make me seem deficient.

    I think that’s partly why the debate bro energy caught on, you don’t actually need to know anything. You just need to project strength.

    The irony is that real knowledge feeds more doubt, not less. The more you learn, the more you see the edges of your own ignorance.

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      I chose my username because when I was young I desperately wanted to be the smartest person in the room. While I did devour knowledge (encyclopedias were bedtime reading; thank you, undiagnosed autism), I was stubborn, overly certain of myself, and far less self-aware than I believed.

      Getting older humbled me. I began to see how small and defensive my certainty really was, and I made a conscious effort to grow beyond it. Real knowledge, as you said, breeds doubt rather than arrogance. Learning to be more intellectual is learning to live comfortably beside what we do not know, to accept being wrong as an invitation to learn, and to not take criticism personally.

      I am still working on that last one. Criticism is easier to learn from when it is not passive-aggressive, but that seems to be most people’s preferred communication style.

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      Congratulations on passing the summit of the Dunning-Krueger arc! Now everything comes with a fun little shadow of doubt! Say goodbye to absolute certainty!

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    I’m tired of people who are clever with regard to one thing thinking that they’re right about everything

    You’re not a genius, you’re autistic, and your one niche subject of interest isn’t actually making the world a better place

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    I’m ok with being wrong and revising my knowledge. I’m not ok with trying to talk to someone that refuses to admit when they’re wrong even when they’re presented with clear evidence of the fact.

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    I freaking love being wrong, mostly because most of the things I predict are bad/stupid things and heyyy look at that, everything is going to shit just like I thought it would. I would LOVE for something to surprise me.

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      I have predicted pretty everything that has happened since 9/11

      I hate being right about things that are so fucked

      I’ve been right about the good things too, but unfortunately they’re less frequent than the shitty stuff at the moment

      And by “moment”, I mean last 25 bloody years…

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      I was surprised three times about a political thing in the last months, all of them positive:

      1. The Trump administration hasn’t cracked down on leftists (yet).
      2. AfD is starting to lose more in eastern Germany.
      3. My city (Munich) elected a young Green promising to lower rent instead of some older Social Democrat literally promising nothing new.

      I’m pessimistic about a lot of things, but compared to many people I know, I’m tentatively optimistic about the US. It looks to me like they’re still “only” doing voter suppression at a scale that isn’t close to “Nazi Brownshirts standing in the booths”.

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      I’ve been told for years I’m overreacting about international politics, Fascism spreading in USA, Climate change, and lately, Fascism spreading in Europe.

      I am so fucking sick of being right all the time, but I just can’t stop. Everything keeps getting worse. It’s like we’ve all adopted Russia’s political roadmap: “Everything fucking sucked, and then it got worse”.

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    TIL: Taking mushrooms and experiencing ego death makes you a superior intellectual. Well I have those qualities, and I assure you, I’m not an intellectual

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    This meme kind of sums up a lot of my Reddit experience and why I left.

    Not because people shouldn’t question themselves or accept they might be wrong. That is healthy. The problem is how often that idea gets turned into a performance.

    A lot of Reddit now feels less like people having a conversation and more like people trying to prove they are the only enlightened person in the room. Every joke gets dissected. Every casual comment becomes a debate. Every disagreement gets reframed as “you just didn’t understand,” “you’re emotional,” or “you need to question your beliefs.”

    It stops being curiosity and becomes status-seeking and ultimatly boring as fuck. Been so nice to have actual convosations where if I have my view challenged and changed it’s not a huge reaction.

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      1st Reddit ban: saying Putin should be dealt with after he took Crimea.

      2nd Reddit ban: arguing that the countryclub feature on subs was racist back when they required photos of skin color.

      3rd Reddit “ban”: recently tried again, immediately shadow banned for saying that ill-behaved Israeli settlers in Thailand should be dealt with harshly by the military. Post instantly moderated by AI. Deleted my account.

      Reddit has strayed far from its original vision and purpose

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      It’s not Reddit. I know quite a few people who seem to think anyone will agree with them if they just explain it properly.

      Because it is entirely impossible for someone to disagree with them, so if you don’t hold the same opinion, it’s because you don’t understand things well enough.

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        I stopped thinking this way when I realized why the tortoise wins the race and not the hare. People often just… don’t do things they should do, even when they’re aware of their responsibilities, and understand how easy it would be. Like reassessing your beliefs when confronted with a fact you can’t argue with - it’s easy to do, but people just… don’t. This just didn’t click for me. For decades I thought everyone would naturally have the motivation to do something simple, maybe not right away, but eventually.

        Slow and steady wins the race not because it’s better than being quick and nimble, but because the person who can do it effortlessly knows how easy it would be, and puts it off to the point where it never gets done. So the person who gets off their ass and gets things done will win even if they’re slow. The motivation to do things is more important than the skill to do them easily.

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          In my experience people stop thinking because it would put them in conflict with the people and institutions they’re attached to or relybon for patronage there is no morality or laziness involved its just politics the motivation to not do things is most important of all

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            I think that’s a reason why they might choose not to change their minds, but often it seems that they don’t even think about it enough to get to that point. It’s not so much “I may be wrong, but I still want to get along with my friends who agree with me” as it is “I don’t know why you’re wrong… but I’ve decided that you still are.” The difference is that, even if they don’t have any groups anchoring them to it, people still hold tightly to their opinion.

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              Groups and other perceived interests the shit people think is important to their lives gets crazy like anti communism as a whole thing how many people who were staunch anti communists would have been any worse under it really but they were convinced so they fpild never think about it again

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        This is intrinsic to idealist thinking. Liberals literally think history is a struggle of ideas and the most correct ones will win if everyone just sits down and thinks about it.

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          They would! Unfortunately, that’s not how humans work. Why sit down and think about it when you can just take the other guy’s stuff?

          And if you’re not good at thinking, how are you supposed to know when the guy you’re sitting down with isn’t just bullshitting you?

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            Why sit down and think about it when you can just take the other guy’s stuff?

            The liberal would probably say something like “the social contract prevents this kind of behavior, enlightenment thinking, etc.” The materialist would point out that behavior is exactly what society is organized around, because we have mutually exclusive class interests with the people doing the taking.

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    Yeah sure, i like it. Opens up new possibilities and thinking patterns. That has been kinda useful over the years.

    One of the main reasons i use forum or whatever type of social media lemmy and reddit are is to have my thinking patterns questioned and tested and to read other peoples thought patterns as well.

    I really don’t care whatever it says about my intellect, it’s just useful and can make my life easier and as an added benefit due to understanding others better, hopefully make their lives a little easier as well.