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      There is a scene in the book “It” where the only girl in the friend group decides to have sex with all the others to bring them back together. Down in the sewers.

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        Also, this friend group is all children. Not teenages of age, or even teenagers of questionable age, children.

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      The book has child porn in it. A group fuck where they all fuck the girl.

      Not joking.

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        Describing it as porn is wildly inaccurate, it’s not particularly detailed or explicit and it’s not written in a way that even comes close to being erotic

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        Today I learned everyone with a copy of the book ‘It’ is in possession of CSAM, and amazon and Barnes and noble are actively and criminally distributing the same material.

        Words have meaning.

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          At least in the US, I’m not sure if purely textual would ever be illegal. You could likely get away with a visual depiction of the scence with current law.

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          It’s a weird and completely unnecessary scene narratively speaking but it’s not even close to porn. It’s one of many similar examples in King’s writing, seems like the guy was molested as a kid and tried working through it with his writing

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          I think a lot of people never saw it coming. He was on a lot of drugs at the time.

          That said, in every single book he wrote, he has very elaborate scenes where a person urinates themselves. Every. Single. Book.

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              I’m certain someone did. At least he came on himself and not in a middle school child.

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              His early work was exceptionally good. Tommy knockers, Needful Things, Salem’s Lot, Misery, Stand By Me, were all pretty good. Not a fan of some of his latest stuff.

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              read the book and tell us if it’s any good? if you’re morally opposed to reading some book because of a fictional scene that disgusts you then stick to childrens books

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              I don’t know. His books aren’t that great. His movie adaptations are just okay.

              He has some early work that was good and got a lot of attention. It was back in the prime days of horror novels. Right place right time. That’s all.

              With the right amount of cocaine I think you or I could probably give him a run for his money

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                His books are variable, but they usually have like 300 pages of genuinely good character development and scene setting, an inciting horrible incident and then another 100 pages of suspension-of-disbelief. All of the film adaptations I’ve seen are pretty bad though.

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                I latent agree with that for all of his books, except for the Dark Tower series. I actually think the Dark Tower series is pretty good. It’s very different from his other books though.

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                  I think, in his case, the more he did the more he produced.

                  However, he’s very public about having no recollection or writing many of his books.

                  I wish I could say “damn, I don’t ever remember making that app. It made a million you say? Wow”

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              You get the logic… of… peeing or the middle school gang bang to defeat a monster?

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                The second one. It preys on innocent childish fears, so kill that part of you. Haha, so clever, makes sense in universe I guess. But like, why would you make your universe that way?

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                  Because Stephen King has sexual trauma from his childhood and has been working through it with his writing the entire time

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                  Cause when you use drugs, you are in the deepest, darkest corners of your psyche. You usually start taking drugs because you either want to silence that part of yourself, or because you feel like a piece of shit because of the thoughts you have in your head. Ultimately, healing comes from realising that everyone experiences thoughts like that, they just decide to not live out the thoughts.

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                    That’s not necessarily why you take drugs.

                    Uppers like cocaine (which he was very fond of at the time) are often consumed to be more productive or to “enhance” an otherwise already positive time. From what I’ve heard, he was introduced to coke at a party, which makes perfect sense. Cocaine abuse starts with making a party exhilarating, then it continues with giving you so much energy while working, finally you simply take the stuff because your brain doesn’t know how to work with natural levels or serotonin/dopamine/noradrenaline anymore.

                    To name another class of drugs, taking psychedelics (which I haven’t heard of King having much business with) to hide from your inner demons would be a profoundly bad move since those tend to forcibly confront you with yourself. Great if you have the feeling that deep down there’s something you need to address but you don’t know what. Terrible if you know there’s something but you can’t handle dealing with it.

                    Downers like cannabis (which King apparently did at least occasionally use) can be used to silence the bad thoughts. Putting up a smokescreen between your conscious and your subconscious isn’t exactly the best way of handling things but at least you’re not pouring fuel onto the fire.

                    Drugs of all kinds can still take your mind in directions you normally would’ve shied away from, that’s true. And a sustained drug habit of any kind is often indicative of an underlying problem; happy people don’t mess with their brain chemistry as often. The specific underlying problem can vary wildly – unassisted psychological distress, physiological issues like chronic pain, performance anxiety, peer pressure… the list goes on and on.

                    Of course, given that King also had a sustained alcohol problem and apparently at one point abused everything he could get his hands on, he definitely seems like someone who couldn’t handle what was going on inside of his head. Thankfully he had the support he needed to overcome his drug problem.

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                  I guess. I mean, he’s a pervert who wants to watch kids fuck. You know he jerked off after writing it.

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          Let’s put it this way, enough people read IT that IT got three movies and a TV series.