• marcos@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 hours ago

    Those sensors are the apex of Modernist arrogance, where people just decide they know every detail about any system they look at and can control everything.

    There is no single place where they work. But at least people have been steadily removing them for the last 30 years.

    • naeap@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 hours ago

      I’m not really sure, if I understood you

      In streets with high traffic, the left turning red light only goes to green, if someone is actually there waiting. Because else it would make a longer red phase for the opposite drivers going straight

      So, it seems like an improvement to me

      What am I missing?

      • marcos@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        1 hour ago

        What am I missing?

        Every traffic situation where people would need to cross but there won’t be a car stopper exactly over the sensor.

        Not exhaustively:

        • pedestrians

        • motorcycles

        • bicycles

        • cars stopped at the wrong place

        • naeap@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 hour ago

          Ah, I see, thanks

          Well, die pedestrians there is usually a button at the crossover, so they get priority and a green light soon

          Bicycles at such crossings usually have a bike lane, because it’s (usually) only at high traffic crossings - and else they can use the pedestrian button

          Not sure about motorcycles though.
          Haven’t seen issues personally, but I can imagine, that the sensors aren’t trimmed to motorcycles sometimes.
          But have to say, that in every occasion I’ve had a motorcycle in front of me on such a sensor, it worked.
          Statistically probably not relevant though…