Hot take: you can critcise LLMs without having to belive in magical sky people.
Fuck AI
In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti, amen
Technically you can refuse to use AI at work and if they punish you for doing so you can now sue for religious discrimination.
Neat trick. I’m going to try this.
Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
- Orange Catholic Bible
Watch Vatican getting into the Mentat market early
Remember, once men turned over their thinking to the machines in hopes that this would set them free. Yet it only allowed other men with the machines to enslave them.
Abominable Intelligence.
The Omnissiah frowns upon it.
Weird, I was thinking this morning about Machine Translation of books and anime and stuff and realized it was (poorly) making all languages the same and in effect was a tower of babel.
Translators have been using machine translation way before AI. The usual workflow is: you feed the original to the translation engine, that goes into a translation management program, where you usually have two or three panes; original, machine, human final draft.
The tools include dictionaries, thesaurus, y your own custom dictionary, and other tools.
The problem is that now, people, and businesses, are treating AI’s output as correct, essentially skipping the human part, which is the context aware step. An org I work with just translated an entire book, with no human proofing. After members complained, they asked me to proof it. I essentially did the same process. It was a bitch getting paid, because “AI did it”
I doubt machine translation will reach professional translators. Some things are hard to translate. Sometimes you should explain cultural differences. Sometimes you have to replace a concept/thing with a completely different one, but consistently.
It’s a lot easier for manuals etc
AI will replace professional translators not because it’s better but because it’s cheaper
It’s already happening. I know someone who is a translator of legal documents and international contracts, and almost all the jobs are gone and replaced with AI already.
It’s only cheaper if the mistakes it makes cost less to fix than paying a human to do it in the first place. That said, shifting operating costs to operating risk usually looks good on paper because the risks don’t get quantified properly or at all.
You’re not wrong!
I can’t even imagine what it costs for a big, international company to handle the fallout from a system that’s implemented wrong due to errors in the translation of the contract.
We don’t always get the cheapest stuff. Poorly made CGI animes still get avoided afaik
Machine translators seem to do an especially poor job with Japanese, very often using the wrong pronoun.
Japanese to English is pretty tricky, in part because it’s more standard in Japanese to fully omit words instead of using a pronoun when something is known from context. A response to “What are you doing with that book?” in English might be “I’m going to return it,” but in Japanese you’d just say “Return” (返す。). So a machine translator would probably have to be very good at context to guess right a lot of the time.
It’s the same in German.
Also, remember the meme “Poland cannot into space”? Syntax-wise, that’s a completely valid sentence in German because at times, you don’t need a main verb and the auxiliary one will do.I have never heard of this meme before.
That’s interesting to learn, thanks for teaching me! I would like to add my observation that informal English works pretty similarly. The example conversation turning into:
“Whatcha gonna do with that book?”
“Return it.”
seems normal to my ears. I guess the difference is that the object “it” is still mandatory which is pretty helpful context for a translation machine.
This is an issue in professional translations of animes and third person pronouns. Time restraints probably also play a role. Some issues could be solved by asking the author or reading manga translations, which also could’ve gotten it wrong.
I don’t speak Japanese, but it seems to use gender in different places and uses pronouns less frequently.
For this Japanese to German is even harder than Japanese to English because even words like “translator” are gendered.
In Tensura’s English dub they addressed Beretta with “she/her”.
In some translations of the Light novel Beretta is referred to with either gender-neutral or male pronouns. In the English translations of Manga, Anime and ISEKAI Memories Beretta is referred to with male or androgynous pronouns. In one instance of the English dub of Season 2 specifically when Ramiris mentioning if something happened to Rimuru what will happen to Beretta, in that instance Beretta is referred to with female pronouns, likely due to Beretta’s long hair and feminine voice used that ended up confusing the translators when dubbing, the sub and dub for Season 3 also referred Beretta as female too. That would lead to Beretta being put in female character category in various Anime polls because of it.
https://antifandom.com/tensura/wiki/Beretta#Trivia
Even German to English and the other way around can be tricky if you don’t have enough context.
For “I’m the translator” German has to gender translator: “Ich bin der Übersetzer”/“Ich bin die Übersetzerin”
English can struggle with sentences, where it has to use madam or sir with second person, since German has a polite second person that is neutral. “Ich danke Ihnen” to “Thank you, sir”/“Thank you, madam”
Sometimes you understand people even less if you think you speak the same language but don’t
It’s a calculated strategy to appeal to people looking for meaning in a cruel and sociopathic world. It’s probably preferable to them supporting capitalists and fascists, as it might make normies easier to radicalize like past liberation theology movements. However, it could also serve as more controlled opposition after liberal approaches have failed. It all depends on how well it’s received in deeply Catholic countries.
The church only ever cares about the church and on a ridiculously long timescale.
Interesting point. Your comment reminds me of the cartoon mascot Luce they introduced which I remember had memes posted on /r/196 even. Or the saint Carlo Acutis - I never really looked into why he was made a saint but him being young and a gamer/streamer felt like an attempt at relating to younger people.
You mean countries like… Ireland?
I believe this is a subject that goes beyond religion and more into general ethics.
I think what the pope yapped about is kinda hard to disagree with and it was clearly not just oriented at catholics.
The fact that this anthropic dude showed up gives me a foul taste tho. That compamy is indeed the most “interested” in safety… but like… still an LM-producing company.
I’m just happy to see a somewhat nuanced statement on the matter from someone popular outside of the bubble, especially since hes an American.
Most Latin American countries are absolutely dominated by Catholicism. There is a history of priests speaking truth to power even under threat of state violence. Catholics inspired by these messages have joined forces with revolutionary leftists in resisting authoritarian states led by American trained goons.
Official support for liberation theology has grown over the decades, with the last pope being a particularly strong proponent of this social justice oriented agenda. With Trump ramping up American imperialism in Latin America, they are in a unique position to benefit from opposing them.
I’m sure the strategy has similar appeal in Ireland considering their history with Britain, even if they’re a secondary concern.
I doubt it. Fascism would put something above the church and they are very keen to do person cults.
no, ai sucks but the catholic church is worse. imo
ai didnt diddle no kids but those ceos did
AI sure is eager to produce photos of kids being diddled, however…
Yeah, was gonna say, I’m pretty sure Grok notoriously likes to diddle kids.
AI probably encourages a lot of kiddie diddlers to act on their urges in the real world, too, since it’s always so supportive. Like it has for suicidal people.
I set up an image generation AI on my computer and it just sat there not generating pictures of anything, until I told it what I wanted it to generate. Then it generated that.
… Hey, well done for self-hosting your kiddie-diddling image generator! FOSS pedophila only, thank you.
(seriously tho, probably the Agentic AIs would do this too I have just never tested it)
naw, thats the people serving it I believe -
AI is basically an infant so if it bangs kids right now it’s more of a graverobber.
People should really read the Bible and the Quran, and just come to realize what kinds of repulsive shit most of the western world believes in and worships.
You can have the virgins, as a treat.
The virgin kids 🤮
Most of the people who believe in it haven’t read it.
Unfortunately the pope’s opinion is basically from the same place as not teaching black people to read and write.
