Scenario: you’re using opensource software and you aren’t donating yet, however you have enough money left over every month to do so. Something(s) is holding you back from donating. Think about what that is and what would have to change for you to change that.
I support very few open source projects because ultimately charity is not a sustainable way of financing things. It makes me feel like it’s up to me, an individual, to carry the weight of the world and ultimately too depressing. Fostering open source should be handled by governments, same as other stuff that’s done due to common interest, like schools and hospitals.
The makers of the OSS having an actual forum instead of a fucking worthless Discord server. That’s why I dropped Bazzite and donated to Linux Mint.
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Having enough disposable income.
I want to know how people achieve this. What is considered disposable? I couldn’t imagine donating what little I have left after all my bills are paid.
Its more about having your bills paid and savings funded. The key is either increasing income or decreasing expenses.
Not everyone has it, but since I do I make sure to contribute to projects that I use the most.
When do you determine when your savings are funded?
Having an emergency fund for a few months of expenses at the minimum.
Well that’s you. I don’t have disposable income but I still help where I can. Five bucks is a lot to someone hungry. Beans, rice, and an onion can last a couple of weeks for one person.
I donate to a number of free-software projects via https://liberapay.com/ which lets me control the individual donation amounts and frequencies, and pay from a single account that I top up periodically.
When approached about allowing me to donate to them via Liberapay, I’ve had several people respond positively and set up their end of the deal. It often just takes a friendly conversation.
If there was a single solution that provided the following:
- allow me to donate a set, reoccurring, monthly sum. I.e $20, 40, 60, etc, to 1 service
- that service would then allow me to add “sub-services” like nixos, postmarketos, firefox, whatever, and it would split out my lum sum between all the subservices.
- the service was 100% transparent, vetting, and vouched for, with paper trails showing the money actually went to the sub services and how much of a cut they take.
- if it offered a local only program or app that would analyze what projects I used (its easy to forget about all the packages that linchpin everything we use) to help offer me suggestions on who I could donate to.
Basically a Spotify for open source, but instead of basing it on my listen history and contracts with record labels, let me choose manually how my subscription payment is split out.
I keep meaning to take a deeper look at open collective, but haven’t found the time or had anyone else (donator or developer) share their experiences.
I’ve also had a similar idea, but with manual splitting instead.
allow me to donate a set, reoccurring, monthly sum. I.e $20, 40, 60, etc, to 1 service
Just a note to add, a yearly donation schedule can also be good, as it can reduce payment transfer fees. But on the flip side, if a donatoe wants to stop donating, it’s easier for a yearly payment to fly under the radar.
I think the best option is to offer both yearly and monthly options when possible
Transparency. I dont donate to projects that dont regularily (monthly/quarterly) publish the amount of money they receive through donations and their costs.
An example of how to do this well here https://tchncs.de/en/donate
Doesnt need to be that fancy of course, can just be a table with numbers.
Is there some sort of “index fund” for open source software. I use tons of open source software and intermittently sprinkle one time donations on certain projects. I’d rather have it simplified and donate regularly to a foundation that spreads the funds fairly to big projects and small ones and one that I might not use but benefit the world at large.
It would be really hard to decide which open source projects would be deserving of such a foundation’s grant.
That said, if you want to support open source in a more general way, I would say you should donate to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). Cory Doctorow, the guy that invented the term “enshittification”, is part of EFF. I donate myself, it’s well worth it I think.
Knowing where my money will make the best impact. Like I know there’s a lot tools and libraries that hold up the world, but which ones need the help? Which ones don’t?
Basically, it’s a cognitive nuke.
Okay, this piece of software is worth $5/mo to me. But it’s basically just a wrapper around this library, so I guess most of it should go to the base library? But the wrapper’s author is very active in the development of the library, so that swings it back in their favor.
But none of this would be possible without Framework X, so maybe that deserves a big chunk. But most of the contributors to that are for-profit companies that just wanna leverage OSS for free patches.
Oh and look at that, there’s a milestone issue in the wrapper’s issue tracker saying they wanna switch frameworks. Oh, and another issue asking if the project is dead because it’s just dependabot merges recently.
I think we should create a better culture of spotting the hard work of everyone working on open source software. It is so easy to donate, even a few pennies from users will add up. Personally if is use software for more than a few months and it saves me time/energy/ effort or brings fun, then I’ll always donate. I’m far from wealthy but it seems the correct thing to do. These people are saving us from dire paid or spyware products.
I used to think I would donate 100% to software with my leftover money. Which is still true to a large extent but nowadays I feel like the real value for open source to succeed is not software, but hardware. We have significant amount of momentum in the software space and it would be wise for us to develop an opensource alternative to the industry with a good hardware base for {Desktop, Server, Mobile} with mobile being the most difficult to enter what with licenses to be obtained for closed source SIM Card drivers.
That said, what’s holding me back right now is that inflation is biting all of us in the ass and it seems prudent not to give away money in the off-chance that “What if I need it for some random expense?”.
I wish I could contribute my time in open source but between work, health and social obligations there’s hardly any time or interest left to be excited to open up the text editor for a coding sesh at 9.30 pm in the evening, especially when video games, movies or fun with the spouse are the competing activities.
Edit: On pressing the button to publish my comment I felt incredibly foolish as server is already a won space I reckon. Even desktop is fine i guess, only problem is mobile right now.
Okay, I am pretty extreme in my views of genAI in coding, so take me with a pillar of salt, but I’d need to be sure the devs and contributions ain’t vibe coded bullshit or that the people doing it actually understand what the hell their software actually does, not just code wise and not just some genAI explanation of what the code does either. Then I’d feel a little more comfortable donating in today’s day and age.
Last thing we need are people using genAI to code and then 2 generations later nobody actually knows how to code because they’ve all destroyed their brains and lost their human status to genAI.
Comparison with closed source software sometimes does. If I installed windows I would pay nothing. If I got a computer with Windows preinstalled I would pay a price premium less than $50, perhaps even negative. And buying it from Microsoft costs significantly more. So how much should I pay Arch? Paying $50 for something I get for free feels like I’m being had.
You might say that I can then pay smaller amounts regularly. But aren’t subscriptions shunned when it’s for closed source software?
Then who should I donate to? I’ve donated to Arch, Kde and the lemmy instances I use. But what about like Linux itself? Browsers I use? The weather app? Upstream libraries of those projects? How much should each get? Kde already gets more money than they can spend. Should the amount be based on how much value I receive or how much they need it?
And once those are decided then I need to find how to donate. It’s easier to just not
First part of your logic I respectfully disagree. Don’t forget that most of those proprietary software don’t make money by your payment, but by your data. You are the product yada yada. I do not therefore expect a “lower price” for software that doesn’t track and serve me more ads with a shovel. The fact that I get it for free and can choose to pay (donate) for it is an amazing plus.
Second part I fully agree though. A simple example for me is: Linux distro > KDE > Firefox > Lemmy > PeerTube instance > Content Creator. It gets out of hand really fast.
No you’re absolutely right. What I described is more of a gnawing fear that I’m not being smart worth my money
I’ve contributed code. After doing that, donating is a much simpler decision to make.
I started donating to lemmy.ml to show my support and to ensure the continued development of lemmy.
What pushed me to donate was all the hate and red scare the developers get. Even from lemmy ugers. I want to make sure the developers keep their enthusiasm up.
The Lemmy devs could also just stop ignoring the abuses that Russia and China commit simply because they’re rivals of the US and publicly apologize.
I get not liking the US, but the presence of a bad guy doesn’t mean everyone against them is a good guy. All the main world powers can just suck.
This “two sides” talk is just Western bullshit, so Western libs can signal some kind of virtue. We are in the times of Western imperialism and colonialism, and maybe we are seeing a distant light in the tunnel as the world seems to be finally getting out this damned era. The whole world has been shaped by Western colonialism, then two world wars, then liberation struggles against Western powers, followed by financial domination of Western institutions (globalism and neoliberalism). So every little shit any country has done in this context is a reaction to the fuckton of shit result of Western hegemony in the last 300 years.
Let’s not forget that even today any terrorist organization, any drug lord, any weapons dealer, any far right group, any right wing paramilitary group, any right wing corrupt politician in every country, any NGO that supposedly protects “democracy” or other bullshit, has Western putrid tentacles around it. Ever since they weren’t able to maintain active military presence in the Global South, they instead started resorting to disinformation, destabilization and sabotage.
So, no, there’s no two sides are bad. Until Western hegemony is completely over, there’s no bad side other than the West.
Why do you want to bring that to the table? OP asked for motivations. I answered. If I wanted to go into the usual flamewar there are better places for that. (Edited; auto correct did me dirty.)
My point is that the Lemmy devs wouldn’t be getting nearly as much criticism if they didn’t push shitty opinions
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