For a while now the transition away from Manifest V2 (MV2) to MV3 has been on-going and it looks like it is entering its final phase of deprecation, at least, in the case of Google Chrome. A recent discussion thread in the w3c WebExtensions Community Group GitHub repo has highlighted how the latest and upcoming versions of the most popular browser are expected to be its final releases with support for MV2 extensions.
What this essentially means is that the tricks and bypasses that were used to keep MV2 extensions like uBlock Origin and others alive will not work any more on Chrome, or at least not for very long. For example the Windows Registry mod that could extend MV2 availability will cease to function after Chromium version 151.
Who here actually uses these shitass browsers?
Here on Lemmy, not many.
Its about 75% of the world though.
Here? We’re a rounding error not worth considering.
The majority of users do not use any web browser. They “click on the internet”.
And even if we’re conscious of it, I doubt even many of us do enough to really protect ourselves. I certainly don’t.
the average person on lemmy probably cares more about privacy than the average internet dweller.
The average internet dweller doesn’t even know they’ve lost privacy.
after all, their post has a delete button next to it and their messages say private! They wouldn’t just lie
100%
Even many, many lemmy users believe there is a semblance of privacy on the internet today, or in national businesses with modern IP camera tech. It’s all gone.
They have enough telemetry to know who you are between all the details the browser gives them. Hell, most people don’t even know what a tracking pixel is or how it has been used for well over a decade.
We’re at the point with machine learning that the resources required to process all of these datapoints is trivial even when done onboard fairly cheap devices.
I worked on ad stuff for a very short time where they could tell if they showed you an ad a year ago, and another one, and then if you went to a store, that it was all connected. They would know if you went into a store with presence detection that their ad was working.
Where do their messages still say private? I’ve not seen that in years. The initialism “PM” seemed to get replaced by “DM” overnight. Also though, many of them didn’t lose privacy. Anyone, at the very least in USA, younger than the Patriot Act never had privacy to begin with.
Basically everyone who’s not a techy person (unless their PC was set up by someone who is I suppose).
Any PC I assist with has FF/UBO when I walk away. Now I have to strip out the AI shit too. So maybe I walk away with Waterfox on there now. Librewolf is too much for the average folk.
Tip: if you install Firefox from scratch frequently, you should build a custom
user.jswhere you disable all the stuff you don’t like, and then just drop the file in the profile directory with a script, instead of manually going through all the settings pages each time.deleted by creator
Not having tried either, could you please summarize the differences?
Simply put, you can wratchet down the security settings on FF manually, or use a fork that has done that for you. Waterfox is preset with pretty decent settings and Librewolf dials it to max protect. It’s a bit of work to relax it and that’d frustrate an average user. Waterfox is a fair compromise.
That’s not completely true. I’ve had a fling with Vivaldi for a long time, but only for casual browsing on bookmarked sites I visit regularly (think forums, etc), but for anything serious, it’s obviously Firefox only.
I always liked Vivaldi a lot, but I guess it’s about breakup time. It’s a damn fucking shame.
You’d be hard pressed to find someone who thinks I’m not a “techy” person either, considering I’ve been building machines since the early pentium era.
For posterity, I can mention that Opera and then Vivaldi were the first two “not IE” browsers I ever switched to for myself. Got in some trouble as my parents thought that “I had deleted the Internet” (their exact words…).
Those were the days, heh.
Yeah and to be fair my main browser is Zen but I still have chrome and edge because I work on websites and need to make sure things work OK, they’re just not used for much else.
I have degoogled Chromium installed because some things only work in a chrome browser. However it’s a special use case and I would barely notice if ublock was gone. I wouldn’t use it as a main browser anyway.
I have to use it at work.
I don’t like it. I doing use it elsewhere, but it’s mandatory.
Me.
I use ungoogled chromium and librewolf, all day every day.
Loada of sites just dont work in FF.
Which ones? I want to see for myself what I’m missing out on.
that’s just the stuff I can remember for the moment.
Use an extension to spoof your user agent as Chrome and I bet at least some of them magically start working.
LOL
Got some examples?
I think there’s one called user agent switcher.
Websites that magically work when you change UA.
Oh, not off the top of my head. I can recall at least twice when it worked for me but I can’t remember what sites I was visiting. My sister tried to access ticketmaster I think which was blocking her for some reason (She doesn’t use a VPN) so I told her to try a user agent switcher. It worked after switching her user agent to Chrome. I’m not saying they delibritly block Firefox but it worked in this instance.
Google Maps, Firefox (Zen browser), all extensions still on.
Wow. Did you manage to navigate to a web site like a big boy? I better get the stickers out.
LOL okay, fuck you too then asshole.