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Literally everything’s better than Chrome.
I once broke my leg and that was better than Chrome
Wait!!! You mean the multi-trillion dollar mega-corp that promised that Manifest 3 would actually make adblockers more effective, lied to us???
Still surprised there are so many people using Chrome.
They’re this generations grannies who were stubborn about using Internet Explorer.
There are only chrome, Firefox and safari. All other browsers are derivative of the one above. Chrome is objectively the best from the technical prospective: better support for web technologies, more stable, and better performance. This is not the same as IE that was actually a bad browser.
You either choose a derivative of chrome with better interface and privacy default (vivaldi?), a derivative of Firefox if you care about open web (librewolf?) or a derivative of safari if you have macOS (orion?). But it is still one of those 3, and if google kill manifest v2 then manifest v2 is killed for all derivatives.
better support for nonstandard web technologies
fixed that for you
more stable
what?
and better performance
yes it is a known fact that google sites including youtube are engineered to be slower on firefox.
fixed that for you
CSS scroll drive animation (standard), Cross document view transitions (standard), CSS corner shape, Multicol Level 2 (standard), some of the Filesystem Access API, WebGPU on linux, PWA manifest install (standard), took 3 years to ship documentPictureInPicture.
Facts are facts. Web standard are implemented first in chromium, then in firefox after years.
what?
Chromium based browser have strict multiprocess isolation. This is not true for firefox. If a tab crashes chrome it does not crash the entire browser. This is only partially true for firefox
yes it is a known fact that google sites including youtube are engineered to be slower on firefox.
Yes, and if you check browser performance on a neutral benchmark like speedometer 3.1 chrome is still faster. Also this is a fact.
Chromium is an objectively slightly better browser on paper than Firefox. Firefox is a much better browser for your privacy, for open source development and the health of the web in general.
And “sideload” on Android.
Sucks for Google Chrome users
The number of people I see just drowning in ads is ridiculous. They’re not using uBlock anyway. I don’t know how they put up with it.
They are brainwashed! I asked my wife if she wants me to remove the ads on her laptop. She refused. She wants to see them.
I genuinely can not comprehend it.
Some people just don’t like to tinker. They just accept the situation and live with it. For them the tinkering is a bigger headache than the ads.
The “tinkering” in question: clicking ~10 buttons from the home screen.
Some people call IT when they get a blue screen
Those are the same people who are using YouTube and or paying for YouTube premium… Who are the same people using windows
Some people can’t tell the difference between a search engine and a browser. Some people don’t know how to install software, and use whatever they got. Some people don’t know better.
Them losing access to a tool like uBlock Origin, with the only alternatives being weaker options, is harmful.
I know of people experiencing blockage because they use uBOL, uBO was more effective at bypassing those blocks I assume.
Very good point but I’d argue that if you know what a browser extension is and how to install it, you also know the difference between a browser and a search engine.
Not everyone installs browser extensions themselves; many have them installed by relatives or friends.
Librewolf my faithful friend always
Didn’t they already with manifest v3?
They disabled it with flags, but manifest V2 still existed in the code and could be enabled. This is about Google now removing V2 from the code. That will make it harder for third party browsers to include V2, since they would need to patch it back in and develop new patches to keep it working.
The point was made very strongly at the time. Don’t use a Google driven chrome project. You don’t have that issue on Firefox or its forks.
I have NO idea why Firefox has such a low adoption rate. I’ve been using it ever since Netscape Navigator was outdated and ive never had issues with it. uBlock Origin on mobile, baby!
It used to freeze up a lot; and, then, you lost all tabs, if it did. That’s why I’d stopped using it and switched to Chrome, back in the day.
With all the crap Google’s doing, I tried Firefox out again something like 5 or 7 years ago and it’s now better than what Chrome offers (for me, of course; I’d’ve probably still switched, anyway, just to deGoogle my life further).
I do find it starts to massively lag when I get to a certain number of tabs/windows; but Chrome doesn’t seem to ever shut off my CPU fans under the same level of load so not like it gets a leg up.
Biggest problem is that people are stupid and can’t comprehend that there are alternatives to the shit being served up.
I’d argue it’s the government’s fault. In the computer-age government’s failed to educate their populations on what and how to use computers. They instead taught their students how to use X, Y and Z software. Ignorance here is the root of the problem. A symptom of ignorance could be stupidity I suppose… but users are lazy too. Governments also failed to regulate the nascent software-industries whilst pouring billions into that market. It’s too harsh to just criticize the individual.
There’s that saying… Can’t fix stupid
I remember the junkbuster proxy from before this stuff was done with browser extensions. Is it time for that approach to make a comeback?
No, it’s time for people to finally get their asses in gear and fucking ditch Chromium-based browsers for Firefox-based ones.
Google owns Mozilla and have been slowly getting their greedy fingers in there and they have been changing it to suit their purposes.
Mozilla has been resisting, but it’s only a matter of time.
Google owns Mozilla
I’m going to need verifiable proof of this.
Mozilla is funded by Google. Not sure about them owning it, but they do give Mozilla money
Google provide funding in return for Mozilla making Google the default search engine under FF, which is in itself is nothing like Chromium which is almost entirely developed and maintained by Google.
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Why the fuck does Proton have a Substack?
probably for the same reason anyone has a substack
For spreading Nazi ideas?
Because it’s too hard to set up a blog? No, they have one already.
Because they want to monetise their articles? No, they don’t do that.
I don’t see a reason for Proton to have a Substack publication.
to reach the people with your message, you must go where they are.
this is marketing for people who are not already subscribed to their services or otherwise know about them.
because they signed up for one. this is a shock for a lot of people, it seems, but not everyone is going to behave the exact way you think they should.
