• grue@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Meanwhile, only 30 years ago when we had sealed-beams in standardized shapes, you could replace a headlight for like $10. And the lens was actually glass instead of plastic prone to yellowing and abrasion.

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      23 hours ago

      Yeah and if you hit someone that glass shatters and stabs them. The plastic is shatter resistant.

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        10 hours ago

        Did you know shatter resistant glass exists? Like your windshield for example. The issue is plastic is cheap and easy to manufacture and nothing else.

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          Tempered glass is very hard to mold into a complex shape. Those plastic headlights shrouds are much cheaper to replace, it’s the internals that are expensive.

          Also that plastic you can just polish and they’re like new.

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      Those lights were absolute garbage though and the vehicles that used them got half the gas mileage compared to new ones due to their blocky shape and lack of aerodynamics.

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        17 hours ago

        Aerodynamic headlights should never ever cost $6k under any circumstances.

        Greedy corporate executives ran out of ideas to grow their revenue so we have to deal with absurdity inflated prices.

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            They’re also only 6k in the US because y’all pay extra for everything German and somehow also get worse reliability.

            New matrix LED headlight for A6 C8 from Hella is 1700 EUR. Used one from a wrecker could be as low as 300. Parts catalog also shows individual LEDs for repairs.

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            Toyota Avalon 2011 headlight housing (which usually gets damaged) with auto leveling costs $150 each from the dealer ship. I still run the factory blasts and leveling motor and I just replace HID bulbs for ~$180 every 5 years or so.

            Compare it with 2022 Toyota Avalon with unserviceable headlights without auto leveling which cost ~$2000

            So a fender bender would cost $10k easy just for a pair of headlights and a bumper.

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              Here they are for $470 each with a CAPA certification for body shop repairs:

              OEM parts are always going to be ridiculously priced because the OEM has a monopoly on OEM parts. Your 2011 headlamp assembly also has removable bulbs while the newer Avalon uses built-in LED lights with all the circuitry to drive them.

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        My Miata with pop-up sealed beams gets ~30 MPG. Any aerodynamic problems it has are due to being a convertible, not the headlights.

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      21 hours ago

      They burned out and needed to be replaced. New ones should never burn out

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        12 hours ago

        So… put LEDs in the same form factor. Now you have lights that don’t burn out and can be repaired. You can even use PWM to dim them.

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        You say that as if saving $10 on a bulb once every few years is worth the risk of spending $100s or apparently even $1000s if they get damaged.

        There are reasons cars have been getting ever more unaffordable (above and beyond inflation), and stuff like bespoke model-specific headlights requiring complicated tooling to manufacture is one of them.

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          Cost wise, no it’s not worth it.

          But you now have an item that

          • never needs to be maintained
          • is brighter
          • works better

          The adaptive headlights in my car are truly amazing, and every time I’m blinded by oNcoming headlight glare I wish everyone had them