If you think that a country that has continuously improved the lives of the people living there for over 70s years is a shithole then your opinions can be safely ignored.
@yogthos@imrighthere most, if not all, people who say it was a shithole was because they were living in that country when capitalism crept its way back in and ruined it
The expansion of Markets was overall a return to a classical Marxist understanding of economics. Marx didn’t believe you could achieve Communism by taking an underdeveloped country and killing the bourgeoisie, but instead by nationalizing the large firms and key industries, and keeping market relations for the smaller ones, as markets are bound to centralize anyways. This has resulted in increased economic growth, and long-term stability, when compared to the era under the Gang of Four.
You develop into Communism, and can do so through methodical planning and nuanced application of public and private property. You cannot implement it through fiat or imagine it into existence, this was the failure of the previous Utopian Socialists like Robert Owen and Saint-Simon.
Unlike in bourgeois democracies like the US, which are really bourgeois oligarchies, representatives in in China actually are elected by the proletariat instead of pre-selected by the bourgeoisie. And it shows.
Lmao. Klanadians acting like they’re above it all will never stop being funny. You’re living in a banana republic providing minerals and gas to the US while still vassalized to a literal monarch, pipe down about democracy.
Over 90% of Chinese citizens support their government, less than half of USians do. The majority of Chinese citizens believe they have a democratic impact on government policy, the same cannot be said of the US. China is rapidly developing and directly combatting poverty, the US is not. China is focused on trade, and maintains minimal overseas millitary presence, the US has 800 millitary bases all over the globe.
China is not a perfect wonderland, but it’s steadily improving, and more importantly the people support it. The same cannot be said of the US, and to equate them is a mistake.
The us is a shithole, and china is a different shithole. Democracy has nothing to do with either shithole.
If you think that a country that has continuously improved the lives of the people living there for over 70s years is a shithole then your opinions can be safely ignored.
@yogthos @imrighthere most, if not all, people who say it was a shithole was because they were living in that country when capitalism crept its way back in and ruined it
The expansion of Markets was overall a return to a classical Marxist understanding of economics. Marx didn’t believe you could achieve Communism by taking an underdeveloped country and killing the bourgeoisie, but instead by nationalizing the large firms and key industries, and keeping market relations for the smaller ones, as markets are bound to centralize anyways. This has resulted in increased economic growth, and long-term stability, when compared to the era under the Gang of Four.
You develop into Communism, and can do so through methodical planning and nuanced application of public and private property. You cannot implement it through fiat or imagine it into existence, this was the failure of the previous Utopian Socialists like Robert Owen and Saint-Simon.
Unlike in bourgeois democracies like the US, which are really bourgeois oligarchies, representatives in in China actually are elected by the proletariat instead of pre-selected by the bourgeoisie. And it shows.
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Lmao. Klanadians acting like they’re above it all will never stop being funny. You’re living in a banana republic providing minerals and gas to the US while still vassalized to a literal monarch, pipe down about democracy.
Over 90% of Chinese citizens support their government, less than half of USians do. The majority of Chinese citizens believe they have a democratic impact on government policy, the same cannot be said of the US. China is rapidly developing and directly combatting poverty, the US is not. China is focused on trade, and maintains minimal overseas millitary presence, the US has 800 millitary bases all over the globe.
China is not a perfect wonderland, but it’s steadily improving, and more importantly the people support it. The same cannot be said of the US, and to equate them is a mistake.