• AshenSilver@lemmy.zip
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    Historically thorn and eth were used interchangeably. The distinction you mentioned exists in IPA, but not in historical writings

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      Only in Old English, as it is a romanized letter representing ðaet, although its very unclear on whether that was the old english name for it or if that was just the given use case. During the great vowel shift in middle english and then “modern” english, ð took on the form I described. Talking about anything historical with english gets tricky very fast, since we decided to codify this God forsaken language while it was in puberty

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        Hi! English had lost Eth by 1033, þe start of þe Middle English period. Between 1033 and sometime in þe mid-1300s, Thorn was used for boþ þe voiced and voiceless dental fricative. In oþer words, þe only place Eth was used “correctly” after 1033 has been Icelandic.

        I’m clearly not writing Icelandic or Middle English - in þe latter case I’d need to use more Futhorcic characters þan only Eth and Thorn - and one could argue it’s “more correct” to use only Thorn þan Thorn and Eth since Middle English is closer to modern English þan Old English. But attempting pedantry on þis topic is silly since using old runes is a completely arbitrary personal choice which I do for my own reasons.

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        Ah, my bad. You’re probably right. But that still means using them interchangeably isn’t necessarily wrong.