• St.Elsewhere@threads.net@sh.itjust.works
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    While I agree, there is a connotation in many western countries to consider. Were women to be topless, they would be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal of your self, or even others is sinful. Changing perceptions would be a generational effort and, at least in the US, things are swinging more conservative rather than less.

    But, in some parts of Europe, toplessness is accepted on both sides of the aisle, so the world isn’t wholly broken. Asia has smatterings of the same. I support egalitarianism in all things, and it’s deeply frustrating that the human body is, mostly, stigmatized through crystalized, cancerous religious repression

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      Were women to be topless, they would be perceived as a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein because of religious customs dictating that arousal of your self, or even others is sinful.

      This is more of an argument to go topless than anything else.

      FREE THE TITTIES!

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          The only states in the US that have statewide bans on female toplessness is Indiana, Tennessee, and Utah. The majority of states in the US explicitly allow femme people to go topless because masculine people are allowed to go topless.

          How about we stop warning women about existing as women and push against people who would perceive women as “a thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else in that vein” for judging them.

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              What? I live in the US. I’m speaking from my lived experience here. I agreed that Utah is one of the states that outlaws it.

              I can’t have a conversation with you without being accused of being aggressive?

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          Only when society ascribes sexuality to things that are inherently not sexual.

          Boobs are not inherently sexual.

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                It is a violation of people’s sensibilities. People don’t wanna be exposed to nudity for personal or religious reasons. No need to expose yourself and violate that, no reason why one can’t just cover themselves up appropriately and avoid hurting others.

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                  And I don’t want to be exposed to religious people because their repression and preaching is a violation of my sensibilities. When can I ban them?

                  no reason why one can’t just cover themselves up appropriately and avoid hurting others.

                  Your delicate sensibilities are not a reason to force someone to wear a shirt. If you’re offended by the human body to the point where seeing a woman topless violates your sensibilities, maybe you should stay home?

                  The world shouldn’t have to censor itself to save your feewings. But it’s better that the religious prudes get to dictate how everyone else can live, because gods forbid they have to be the slightest bit uncomfortable.

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                  Would you say the same to breastfeeding parents?

                  Breasts are not inherently sexual. Just because a person’s religion may ascribe sexuality to it, does not mean that everyone has to abide by that religion’s rules.

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                    Would you say the same to breastfeeding parents?

                    No, that’s a situation where there’s a genuine reason to do it other than wanting to prove something or being a creep.

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      thrill seeker, mentally ill, hippy, or something else

      You call men like that “perverts” or “sex pests”. Women can be those things too.