The thing about Ringo is that he more or less invented (or at least popularized) many of the beats that other genres would use, e.g. prog rock (not the crazy time signature stuff obviously) and a lot of pop music at the time.
It’s not always obvious, but you can pick some tracks from say Yesterday and Today through to Abby Road and have a difficult time finding other drummers who used that beat first.
Hey may not have been the most technically proficient, but he was so musical with his drumming and creative. Meg White wasn’t the “best” drummer either but she was so perfect with the White Stripes. I think Ringo really rounded out the Beatles and the tracks on the White Album without him really suffer for it.
What does “technical proficiency” even mean as long as you’re creative? I respect music theory, for sure, but that’s why I’ve never believed it to be essential in any way.
Yeah, I’m not trying to either, really. It just bugs me how theory gets looked at as the ultimate judge of skill, and whenever someone is good without it, its an exception. That’s all.
I’m not talkimg abouy theory in this case, although i get what you’re saying. Actually i love how amazing the Beatles were at songwriting without being educated in theory at all; Paul famously couldn’t read music, i don’t know about the others. As the other commenter said, George Martin helped them whenever they needed the theory/arranging chops.
What i mean is technical proficiency i.e. how quickly and accurately and complicatedly can the drummer hit the drums. Some people love that shit and i get it. But my favorite drummers are the ones who didn’t have that, but had creativity and soul and rhythm without being technical and everything else.
Someone on YouTube said that The Who was the first rock band where the drum set was the lead instrument, and i love that! Keith moon wasn’t perfectly on beat all the time or super duper fast, but he was amazing.
I love how Ringo put so much thought and care into his drum parts, you can often tell which song you’re hearing just from the drum track alone. He really did elevate the Beatles songs with his creativity, without being a superstar show off about it. And i love his understated drum solo.
I mean, none of The Beatles knew theory. Obviously they picked up a lot of it but they lacked the vocabulary. They turned to George Martin, producer of all but one of their albums, for that.
The thing about Ringo is that he more or less invented (or at least popularized) many of the beats that other genres would use, e.g. prog rock (not the crazy time signature stuff obviously) and a lot of pop music at the time.
It’s not always obvious, but you can pick some tracks from say Yesterday and Today through to Abby Road and have a difficult time finding other drummers who used that beat first.
Hey may not have been the most technically proficient, but he was so musical with his drumming and creative. Meg White wasn’t the “best” drummer either but she was so perfect with the White Stripes. I think Ringo really rounded out the Beatles and the tracks on the White Album without him really suffer for it.
What does “technical proficiency” even mean as long as you’re creative? I respect music theory, for sure, but that’s why I’ve never believed it to be essential in any way.
Lots of drumming nerds and metalheads appreciate it, and i don’t want to yuck their yum.
Yeah, I’m not trying to either, really. It just bugs me how theory gets looked at as the ultimate judge of skill, and whenever someone is good without it, its an exception. That’s all.
I’m not talkimg abouy theory in this case, although i get what you’re saying. Actually i love how amazing the Beatles were at songwriting without being educated in theory at all; Paul famously couldn’t read music, i don’t know about the others. As the other commenter said, George Martin helped them whenever they needed the theory/arranging chops.
What i mean is technical proficiency i.e. how quickly and accurately and complicatedly can the drummer hit the drums. Some people love that shit and i get it. But my favorite drummers are the ones who didn’t have that, but had creativity and soul and rhythm without being technical and everything else.
Someone on YouTube said that The Who was the first rock band where the drum set was the lead instrument, and i love that! Keith moon wasn’t perfectly on beat all the time or super duper fast, but he was amazing.
I love how Ringo put so much thought and care into his drum parts, you can often tell which song you’re hearing just from the drum track alone. He really did elevate the Beatles songs with his creativity, without being a superstar show off about it. And i love his understated drum solo.
I mean, none of The Beatles knew theory. Obviously they picked up a lot of it but they lacked the vocabulary. They turned to George Martin, producer of all but one of their albums, for that.