The pepper in the meme is already highly domesticated. The OG pepper is the chiltepin. They grow wild here in Texas and all over Mexico, and they’re a woody perennial. They’re tiny but hot af and great to dry and crush up or to make hot sauce with. I can get 200 off a single plant each season.
The “OG pepper” is likely already gone: the Capsicum genus started branching off 17mya, way before we humans colonised the Americas. It was probably from the Andes as it’s where you have the biggest clade diversity; including barely domesticated species, such as C. chacoense and wild ones like C. eximium:
If I had to take a guess chiltepín is probably a landrace, a wild-ish descendant of domesticated C. annuum.
Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure lol. Glabarisculum definitely may be a landrace, but it’s also still the likely progenitor of all extant Capsicum annuum varieties
Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure
If you don’t, then there’s no “OG pepper”. Multiple species in the genus have been domesticated, cross-bred, spread, and used by funny monke “MOUTH HOT”.
Glabarisculum definitely may be a landrace, but it’s also still the likely progenitor of all extant Capsicum annuum varieties
Both things are mutually exclusive, since landraces require previous domestication. If it’s a LR then even for that specific species it isn’t the OG, the OG would be its ancestor.
People are fish. You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist 😂 And we don’t even know that it’s a landrace for certain, you just said you’re “guessing” this
No, that is not the case of picking a paraphyletic definition and treating it as a clade (“people are fish”).
I’m pointing out that whatever they find “in the wild” in Mexico and neighbouring countries is already the result of humans spreading this stuff everywhere, after years and more years of funny monke, so no matter what you call “original gangsta” that is not it. Anyone with basic reading comprehension (unlike you) can get it.
You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist
Yeah, because I totally invented the definition of landrace. Suuure. I also invented the aeroplane. /s
😂
I also invented emojis, “lol” and “lmao” because they’re all great ways to force braindead morons and pass-aggro shitlets to out themselves as such.
you just said you’re “guessing” this
Yeah, and you clearly did not understand what I was guessing.
Not bothering further with you.
EDIT, directed at other users (the above won’t understand anything too complex): my guess was correct, chiltepín is indeed a landrace.
The link also mentions «Chiltepins are often referred to as the “mother of all peppers”, but it has a more recent rich history along the US and Mexico borderlands». This explains rather well that 1) the chiltepín pepper was introduced there, and 2) why the American nationalist is throwing such a cringe tantrum, at the idea peppers originated elsewhere.
The pepper in the meme is already highly domesticated. The OG pepper is the chiltepin. They grow wild here in Texas and all over Mexico, and they’re a woody perennial. They’re tiny but hot af and great to dry and crush up or to make hot sauce with. I can get 200 off a single plant each season.
The “OG pepper” is likely already gone: the Capsicum genus started branching off 17mya, way before we humans colonised the Americas. It was probably from the Andes as it’s where you have the biggest clade diversity; including barely domesticated species, such as C. chacoense and wild ones like C. eximium:
If I had to take a guess chiltepín is probably a landrace, a wild-ish descendant of domesticated C. annuum.
Well if you’re going back millions of years to extinct species, sure lol. Glabarisculum definitely may be a landrace, but it’s also still the likely progenitor of all extant Capsicum annuum varieties
The original pepper was a fish!
If you don’t, then there’s no “OG pepper”. Multiple species in the genus have been domesticated, cross-bred, spread, and used by funny monke “MOUTH HOT”.
Both things are mutually exclusive, since landraces require previous domestication. If it’s a LR then even for that specific species it isn’t the OG, the OG would be its ancestor.
People are fish. You’re inventing strict definitions that do not exist 😂 And we don’t even know that it’s a landrace for certain, you just said you’re “guessing” this
No, that is not the case of picking a paraphyletic definition and treating it as a clade (“people are fish”).
I’m pointing out that whatever they find “in the wild” in Mexico and neighbouring countries is already the result of humans spreading this stuff everywhere, after years and more years of funny monke, so no matter what you call “original gangsta” that is not it. Anyone with basic reading comprehension (unlike you) can get it.
Yeah, because I totally invented the definition of landrace. Suuure. I also invented the aeroplane. /s
I also invented emojis, “lol” and “lmao” because they’re all great ways to force braindead morons and pass-aggro shitlets to out themselves as such.
Yeah, and you clearly did not understand what I was guessing.
Not bothering further with you.
EDIT, directed at other users (the above won’t understand anything too complex): my guess was correct, chiltepín is indeed a landrace.
The link also mentions «Chiltepins are often referred to as the “mother of all peppers”, but it has a more recent rich history along the US and Mexico borderlands». This explains rather well that 1) the chiltepín pepper was introduced there, and 2) why the American nationalist is throwing such a cringe tantrum, at the idea peppers originated elsewhere.
I didn’t know I was talking to Cannaflight M Aeroweed
Now you do! You’re also talking with the guy who invented fire. And internet shitposting!
You just bothered real hard lol
20k-140k SHU is a big range, not the hottest around but it might be a bit like gambling! Habanero is around 150k so in the same ballpark.