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People… Windows and Xbox is not an improvement (it can be even worse). Build a Linux Gaming PC, that’s true freedom.
The main appeal of consoles is that you can essentially just plug and play without having to worry too much about extra configuration. As much as I like Linux, it’s generally not a good alternative for console folks who just want to relax and play video games.
A lot of Linux works out of the box now. If folks started selling preconfigured Linux machines like you can buy for windows, that’s all most people need. Valve is following a good strategy
Yeah, I have a steam deck and I’ve used the desktop a few times, just to check stuff out, but I very easily could have overlooked it completely. It’s perfectly possible for a linux computer to be as easy to use as a console.
This is what the Gabe Cube and Steam Deck are for. Price rises have been unfortunate and normies aren’t going to consider those anymore. I guess the Nintendo Switch 2 with some game cartridges might be their next choice…although this is obviously a huge mistake if the point was to find a company with consumer friendly practices.
I’ll admit, I don’t play games with intrusive anti-sheet, but frankly, I don’t remember the last time I had to configure a game on Linux because they mostly run out of the box for me
It’s on a case-by-case basis of course so it wouldn’t be the same for everyone. But generally speaking, Linux isn’t user-friendly (though I’m not saying it isn’t at all) in the sense that everything is guaranteed to be compatible with it and work immediately, whether it be certain peripherals that require extra setup to work correctly or software that was never specifically made to work on Linux. I know that from experience, having had some head-scratcher moments when trying to run an obscure/older game or trying to get certain hardware to run on my Linux machine without it having had compatible firmware out of the box. And I wouldn’t even say that I’m all that unknowledgeable with this sort of thing.
I’m not trying to disparage Linux or anything, but it’s definitely not so black-and-white as it easily working well for everyone all the time. It’s never really accommodated for that unfortunately, especially since there’s no one universal Linux distro with all those sore points snuffed out. Until that’s the case I don’t think it would typically appeal to the average person who only games on the side.
It’s still a mess. Only ready for technical users. Not even in the same ballpark for Xbox.
Yeah sure because Win11 and Xbox haven‘t been a complete dumpster fire…
X for doubt.
Fuck um
Abandon Xbox for Windows 11?
So leaving one toxic boyfriend just to get with another?
To get with the same toxic boyfriend but wearing his business casual attire.
I mean it’s a no brainer. if you are forced digital anyway, PC has both steam and gamepass (for pc or ultimate if you also have an xbox). Why lock yourself into an ecosystem that provides no value, when you can go into an ecosystem that not only provides you with most of the Xbox catalog if you want to pay a sub, but also all of the other PC storefronts.
The only reason people ever went console was for the low price, exclusives, the convienence and the physical market. The exclusives have sucked, the price is no longer low, and the physical market has been nuked by an atom bomb.
The question Sony should really be asking here is “why do people buy into our market” because they are actively destroying it.
When they say that they’re eyeing Windows 11 gaming PCs by the reality tmits to game on Linux
From what im seeing people are looking at steam/linux as an alternative not windows. With the RAM shortage, windows is probably the worst solution out of the available options.
Either way it sucks to get rid of the only way to get used games anymore. Im hoping this kicks back more and we see more partnerships with companies like limited run games and others who do physical releases. https://megacatstudios.com/products/zpf for example.
This is what i am hoping. Windows is still MS and their anti gaming bull.
Anything but Linux…
I don’t see why they don’t at least try it, it’s free.
The article is probably paid propaganda by Microsoft.
Just look at the site’s name. Not biased at all!
Because it’s still a mess. Only technical users are going to stick with it.
My most recent switch for my desktop was Fedora. Super simple to install steam and most games I have tried so far work. Happy to try other flavors as well because they all have cool features worth exploring. Happy to try anything new. Suggest you all do the same just like Winnie suggests.
The last thing I want is AAA game studios supporting Linux due to a max exodus of Windows users, because that means they’ll shoehorn their kernel anticheat into proton. Keep that shit away from my work machines. If the capability is included at all, then it will become a vector for nasty exploits.
I can’t see how they’d do it, proton gets installed by the steam client. That client doesn’t run with root privilege, so at the very least they’d have to trigger a password dialog which would be highly obvious.
The average Windows user will happily click “yes” on the UAC prompt when it pops up, so I don’t think it would be that conspicuous to someone who isn’t technical. I’m also pretty sure PolicyKit could get involved but I’ve never messed with it.
Okay… hear me out. I am not trying to play devils advocate here but I would like to point out some things regarding the backlash and ask some questions since I may be out of the loop.
From all that I have read it’s about no more discs.
People are talking about moving to Xbox or PC. Full disclosure I do Xbox because my big group does but I also play PC games. I did get a PS3 when Xbox did their dumb shit.
Xbox still has a disc drive but most of the time it’s all online. Including all updates.
PC still/can have a disc drive but most people including myself use Steam. Or ya know EA, Unreal, GOG. These are still digital downloads. With the exception of GOG (based on the last purchase I made) there is still a drm requirement and checking in. How is this any different?
The difference, unlike a Playstation console, is that you also control the hardware and OS on a PC (mostly, and for now, at least; they’re working on fixing that)
This means that you don’t need to “jailbreak” it with a modchip to gain access to basic functionality like simply deciding to make backups and other copies for yourself or to simply not to run the DRM requirement since you don’t want to run that on your hardware that you own and you should not be obligated to. They call this piracy and cracking and say it’s illegal, but I say it’s a fundamental right. When it’s convenient they’ll tell you that you own the games, and when it’s inconvenient they’ll tell you you don’t own them and they decide what you can do with them. It’s like saying I can’t photocopy pages from or write in the margins of a book I bought and own, whether it’s digital or not. I reject that principle and refuse to abide by it, and you should too, and PC allows you to. Playstation does not, at least not with a nontrivial amount of work and a lot of penalties. It only requires a trivial amount of work on PC and generally will not allow the enforcement of any penalties (it shouldn’t require any work and shouldn’t enforce any penalties, but DRM and laws and always-online content are doing their best to make it difficult as much as they can)
The reality of the encroaching enshittification is real, but that is still the fundamental difference that a PC gives you, and I suspect it will always remain so. Never give up on this platform, defend it like a fortress and do not let anyone entice you away from it, only suffering leads down those paths.
It’s covered in the article
Welcome to the PC Master Race, friends.
It’s warm, cozy, and you don’t have to drag yourself to a GameStop if you don’t want to.
The disc at this stage is somewhat symbolic, its the line that sand against the anti consumer practices being pushed by the platforms.
We have trusted them and during that they have:
- They have sleptwalked users into accepting digital over physical.
- They have infiltrated many areas of game production and monopolized
- They have normalised subscriptions for many areas of gameplay…
And now they are getting pretty bold of what they want.
- You will have to verify your identity
- The products you ‘bought’ can be taken away from you at the platforms discretion
- You will have to be online to play the products you purchased…and you will need to pay for that service.
- They can charge what they want for the games and there is no competition to weaken prices
- You will pay more for your device with less features
They are testing the tolerance with this. This is not about the physical disc. Its about saying enough!
It is now the moment for Valve to announce that they have come up with a way to let you sell/exchange games between users on Steam. They do this and they eat the whole market.
They will never do this, but we can dream.
If valve released a “exchange program” that allows you to trade digital licenses, even for a fee, it would be revolutionary.
…don’t…don’t they already have this feature? Steam Family allows you to share libraries of games with your “family members”.
And unlike Nintendo with their Virtual Game Card two-week limit, you can share Steam games forever AFAIK.
Fuck that. I want to resell my game on any platform.
Yeah, but I meant something like actually trading. Not just sharing in the family group. Imagine I have a game I’ve completed, I don’t want it anymore and you want to play it. We’re not in the same family group, so I offer you to trade it for a game of your library, or maybe we make a deal and you pay me some money for it so you are in a way, purchasing it second-hand from me.
Save about $100 and your sanity by using Linux over Windows
It only saves your sanity if you have a full AMD build. Otherwise, you better be an IT pro or have the time and inclination to do a lot of learning. Nvidia drivers are notoriously problematic with Linux
Nvidia hasn’t been an issue for like 10 years.
It’s super easy to install either the open or proprietary nvidia drivers on most distros nowadays.
And KDE with Wayland works great on nvidia GPUs.
Stopn taking. There are regular NVidia issues. I don’t even get reliable HDMI handshakes and HDMI passthrough doesn’t work.
You got an abnormal issue, and I would help you troubleshoot if you’d like.
Not anymore. I’d say there has been massive improvements in the last 3-5 years for Nvidia. This was one of the main reasons I didn’t swap over sooner.
Guess stop this nonsense. There are plenty of Nvidia issues.
What nonsense? I’ve used nvidia since the early 2000s. There are no more issues than AMD right now.
as popular as diy and linux are on lemmy, pre-builts are still bought by more gamers; and those almost always include windows.
See the Steam Machine could’ve been the perfect pre-built machine for casual gamers looking to dip their toes into PC gaming.
Some prebuilts allow you to skip the OS or the drive altogether and save money
I think it’s like most things, 1% are loud and the rest will accept it
I think the percentage may be higher, but people who like physical media are more likely to be people who buy things second-hand and people who buy much fewer games, but keep playing them for much longer. Sony simply doesn’t care about them, because the ones who move the market are the ones who buy a lot of games, making huge backlogs that will never be touched, pay for subscriptions, etc, and those people don’t care about physical media
Yep, the amount of acceptance is disheartening. i hope those console gamers keep taking it so pcs still have a tad of affordability.
