• Tiral@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Right? That’s how bad it is. Although how that some major companies are having Linux distros as default installs, M$ it’s kinda freaking out a little. It’s like, how little can we do to make people happy and still steal their info.

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    These articles feel like cope. Most people aren’t as invested in physical media as our small corner of the internet. I doubt this decision will hurt Sony, and Microsoft and Nintendo will probably follow suit soon enough.

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      It’s interesting, cause i just saw them mention this subject about gamers being mad at playstation in the national news in my country, so if that’s anything to go by maybe it’s causing more of a stink than we think.

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        It’s just a vocal minority. Every single sales metric available to us and publishers says physical is dead.

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          That’s somewhat misleading. You can’t reduce physical media availability then point at it saying “look people aren’t buying it” because they don’t have access to it in the first place, by design.

          I mean I’m sure since digital media has become mainstream there’s a shift, but it was a planned force shift to increase profits.

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            They haven’t reduced availability of physical Xbox and PlayStation games though. Ever. They’ve been making them, people just don’t buy them.

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      Bazzite (which is essentially SteamOS, but on a Fedora, instead of Arch [btw], base) works just fine – excepting Big Picture / Console Mode, which is still buggy – for both Intel and Nvidia.

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      13 hours ago
      1. Say “what do you mean I can’t play any of the most popular games that me and all my friends play?!”
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          Just try and sell Linux gaming to people when GTA6 is coming out for PC and Linux can’t play it. Good luck.

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            GTA 5 runs perfectly on Linux out of the box. So do all AAA releases. What are you basing your assumptions that GTA 6 won’t work on? Have you even played games on Linux in the last 6 months?

            Unless you’re talking about GTA 6 Online, your comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And if you do in fact mean GTA 6 Online - again, go to therapy and cure your addiction to predatory money extractors.

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              Telling people to stop playing the games they want to play because you don’t like them sure is something.

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      I mean, Valve doesn’t sell games on physical media in the Steam Store either that I’m aware.

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          I’m not 100% sure that it’s the physical media its self that’s the issue, it more so that the digital versions require verification from a server to be playable.

          Xbox and PlayStation can shut the server down and your digital game becomes useless.

          Steam I think this might be a issue, but I don’t remember hearing this happening yet.

          GOG you buy the game and get all the files and executables, so if GOG goes out of business your game still run locally.

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            I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Valve has said if they / Steam go out of business that there would be a window for you to download all your games DRM-free.

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          Last game I can recall buying for PC and physical was Farcry. I never had to many either but the rest were all from the 90s like diablo, and command and conquer red alert. It all stopped when half life 2 dropped which was basically when steam became what it is now and that was 2004.

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          Last time I bought them was the Close Combat series from Slitherine/Matrix Games, which does war games.

          checks

          Looks like they stopped last year:

          https://www6.slitherine.com/news/important-update-last-chance-to-purchase-physical-manuals-and-editions-before-march-1st

          Dear Wargamers,

          We want to share an important update with you.

          Starting March 1st, 2025, Slitherine will no longer sell physical game manuals or physical copies of our games through our website. This marks the end of an era, and we understand how much these editions have meant to many of you over the years.

          There is a trend away from Physical purchases to digital, and a decreasing number of new PC’s even have DVD drives and very few laptops meaning the potential market has been shrinking for years. This, combined with increasing delivery costs, environmental awareness, and more red tape on international deliveries, all combine to make it unviable.

          For those who appreciate the tactile experience of a physical manual or a boxed edition, this is your final chance to secure a piece of wargaming history. You have until February 28th, 2025, to purchase from the remaining stock, after which these products will no longer be available.

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    Aside from Nintendo, how often to today’s games actually fit on physical media and not require downloading/patching to play?

    Actually asking, I don’t have any consoles.

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      There used to be CDs that came in cereal boxes, occasionally a game would be on two disks.

      Also starcraft was on two disks for the installation, though I believe the second disk was for expansion to the main campaign.

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        Oh, Starcraft! I can only afford 1 copy but want to play with my friends… install multiplayer only on secondary pcs. or was that warcraft 2, or both

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      Most games from my small-to-medium sized collection fit on a single blu-ray disc. Only some bigger AAA releases don’t. I think only like 2 games I own have more than one disc - Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead Redemption 2.

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        I’m actually surprised they’d be willing to supply multiple disks. Thanks for the info.

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      Well they don’t always, but you can just use multiple discs in that case. I think final fantasy has done this as well as a recent example, but this has already been done since the days of games still being on CD.

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        It’s significantly more expensive than simply having the rest be downloaded via an update.

        With developers going under left right and centre, putting an even higher cost on their production is a death sentence.

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          That’s not because of the discs lol. If you afford to spend 300 million on slop like concord, you can print discs. And a franchise like gta 6 can definitely afford them.

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            It is because of discs, actually. Every single extra dollar it costs to manufacture them is like 5% of the revenue from the sale of the game that the publisher loses out on. That’s huge.

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    I’m sure the last time I bought a physical box for a game was a WoW expansion. I don’t recall if it had physical media. Either way, unless you’re looking to play games with anticheat, I wouldn’t recommend Windows

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      It is actually entirely possible to have fully functional physical copies of PC games, albeit with extra effort.

      You can buy DRM-free games, and burn them onto blu-ray discs. Of course, you’re gonna need a blu-ray drive, but at least you’re completely free to do what you want. You can also buy blank cases and print cover art for them. Again, a lot of extra effort, but it works and is fully independent from corporations.

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      Well you can actually own your games on pc even if they’re digital. Games don’t have to be physical to be able to own them, but on consoles physical is the only way to own, which is why it’s considered important on those platforms. If consoles as a digital platform were as free as pc, it wouldn’t be as big an issue.

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        Sure, if you only buy gog, in which case you don’t own any AA or bigger games from the last decade or 3. You don’t own your steam games.

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          Yeah i know, but at least the option is there, showing that it’s possible. And with steam games you can always crack them, or just go the piracy route.