• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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    He would be very interested in the very mature milf and gilf sections we have available.

    My favorite writing from any founding father is Ben Franklin writing to a younger friend urging them to take an older mistress. My man had an 8 point presentation on the virtues of fucking older ladies. My favorite saying from this is " In the dark, all cats are grey".

    "Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds are better stored with Observations; their conversation is more improving, and more lastingly agreeable. "

    "Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Man, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an Old Woman who is not a good Woman. "

    "Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience. "

    "Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be inclined to excuse an old Woman, who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his manners by her good Councils, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes. "

    "Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part. The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement. "

    "Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her Life unhappy. "

    “Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making an old Woman happy.”

    “8th & lastly. They are so grateful!!!”

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      New headcannon: that’s the ORIGIN of the saying, so anyone who uses it owes a piece of their vocabulary to Benny F’s GILF fetish 😄

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        Not the origin, but he did further popularize it by using it a bit more literally than anyone before. The first use of it in literature was in Don Quixote.

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    I mean, set aside the slavery politics for just a minute, because that’s low hanging fruit.

    Imagine showing Thomas Jefferson the Hoover Dam. Imagine introducing Thomas Paine to the internet. Imagine George Washington’s face illuminated by a mushroom cloud. How fucking dumb do you think Benedict Arnold would feel if you dropped him onto the deck of a US Aircraft Carrier. How flabbergasted would James Madison feel if you explained that we literally call it the “White House”, because we never changed the color after the British burned it down. What do you think Patrick Henry would have to say about Social Security?

    FFS,

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      He’s having some trouble deciding

      • shy wife of shaker priest next door gets spitroasted by two high degree free masons
      • candle-making spinster has 9 trembling orgasms on her “custom wax figures”
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    They would be horrified about the lack of slavery, women having rights, that we didn’t completely wipe out the natives and stuff like that the founders were monsters.

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      Ben Franklin owned seven slaves early in his life, but later got rid of them, became an outspoken critic of slavery, and worked toward its abolition.

      Also, slavery or not, the point still stands. They wouldn’t recognize America today and would be horrified.

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        Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.

        If nothing would shock your ancestors, you have stagnated.

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        Of what?

        There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.

        Edward Hyde, served 1702 to 1708.

        You’d know that if you actually studied US history.

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          “Bonomi concluded that Lord Cornbury’s crossdressing was likely invented by his political enemies as character assassination.”

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            And…?

            My point was that the Founders would have been familiar with the idea of transgender. Also, most of them had studied the Classics, and would have known about Sappho and the initiation rituals of the Spartan warriors.

            Homosexualism* wasn’t invented in the 20th Century.

            *I can’t find the video, but I once heard William F. Buckley use that word and it’s lived in my head ever since.

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              Sometimes it’s a “Sappho and her friend” situation, but it sounds like this guy was just a straight crook.

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          You immediately assumed they held a position opposite of yours for no reason and then speak condescendingly to them, why? Maybe they think the founding fathers would be horrified by the same things you are horrified by. And even if they didn’t, they aren’t defending them, just stating the fact that they would indeed be horrified.

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            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Cawthorn

            Funny thing. I happen to own an electronic device that allows me to search a thing called ‘the world wide webbing.’

            Using my advanced OKJeeves search engine, I learned something about Ms. Crawford.

            One thing I learned about Ms. Crawford is that they don’t think we should respect other people’s preferred personal pronouns, so to honor that I’ll refer to them as ‘Ms.’

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              More condescending commentary… ok?

              Who is this person, and why do I care about them? And if they’re so important, and you’re so clever, why can’t you keep their name consistent in your own comment?

              Edit: he’s the guy in the OP. Again, what does that really have to do with anything? A different person in the comment section said, “the founding fathers would still be horrified”. Why are you using someone else’s beliefs to justify your rude attitude toward someone who never even implied they share those beliefs?

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                why can’t you keep their name consistent in your own comment?

                You seem confused. I referred to Ms. Crawford twice, and both times as ‘Ms. Crawford.’

                Also, your edit is as confusing a jumble as I’ve ever read. I have no idea what you’re unhappy about.

                Finally, I didn’t ‘assume’ anything. I’ve run across Ms. Crawford’s comments in the past, and happened to remember the name. I guess I overestimated you; I should have added an ‘/s’ but I thought the using the terms ‘worldwidewebbing’ and ‘OKJeeves’ would convey my sarcastic intent.

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                  Cawthorn

                  Crawford

                  My point is that your original comment was not to Cawthorn. It was to someone completely different. Cawthorn could have a swastika in his profile picture and call for the extinction of all trans people and it wouldn’t justify your being rude to some random guy online who said, “yeah the founding fathers would be horrified”.

                  You’re acting like you’re talking directly to the OP and responding directly to Cawthorn’s tweet, when you’re not.

                  Finally, I didn’t ‘assume’ anything. I’ve run across Ms. Crawford’s comments in the past, and happened to remember the name.

                  I’m not saying you’re assuming Cawthorn’s position. I’m saying you’re assuming Dookieman12’s position. What do Cawthorn’s past comments have to do with the person you’re actually responding to?

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          Of what?

          There was a transgender Royal Governor of New York State.

          This may come as a shock to you, but the existence of trans people is not the only significant change that has happened here since the 1700s.

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    “C’mon, Franklin, we’re going to Delaware.”

    “Why should I?”

    “For the drinking and the whoring.”

    Ben immediately stands up “Alright, boys, we got no time to spare! We gotta get to Delaware!”

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    The real Ben Franklin if time travel was invented “JFC another one idk fuck off back to your OWN TIME, MAYBE?!”

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    Sure the would be mortified. Woman that can vote and have rights? The ban of slavery caught up to them in the end? An orange president?

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      The ban of slavery caught up to them in the end?

      Though Ben Franklin owned a few slaves when he was young, he later gave them up and became an outspoken abolitionist. I don’t think he’d be too mortified to find out slavery had been ended.

      He might be mortified to find out that prisoners can still be enslaved, and that the US has a more people incarcerated than any other nation in history. Both by percentage of population and by absolute number. “Land of the free”, am I right?

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    I think they’d be horrified women and black people can vote if anything. Oh and the state imposes some taxes on the rich; I bet that’d horrify them too.

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      So modern day Republicans, basically. Fuckers still have their hands around our throats.

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    Imagine if in another 250 years, the USA still has a system of government substantially similar to its present day form, but with a population of tens of billions spread across several planet Earths in alternate dimensions. Most people are wealthy enough to own a personal spaceship. Medicine has advanced to the point where doctors can bring you back from the dead as long as your brain is more or less in one piece. But now everyone judges the people of the 21st century for eating meat - it’s considered pretty much the worst thing that anyone can do. Maybe you’ll be convinced that you were wrong to eat meat, or maybe you won’t. Even if you’re convinced that you were wrong, maybe you’ll think that the people of the future should have left wild animals alone rather than intervening to eliminate predation. But overall you would probably think the future was going rather better than you expected…