• ozoned@piefed.social
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    21 hours ago

    Kernel anticheat is a virus. There are zero reasons a video fame should have full access of your system.

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      There are zero reasons

      There is a reason. The idea is that a cheat probably have higher rights than the regular user and therefore would be undetectable by an anticheat system with regular rights. Doing it in Kernel mode means it has the highest power to detect even admin level cheats. That is the reason. Many anticheat systems are completely useless without Kernel mode, at least according to the devs (I don’t have numbers to compare them with or without Kernel mode, nobody has probably). So they don’t even bother if they cannot access the Kernel.

      Now I agree with you a videogame shouldn’t have this much power over my system. And it doesn’t even catch them all. But stating it has no reason whatsoever is wrong. I do not want shady companies like Riot to do whatever they want on my system.

      Edit: typo corrected, nothing to see here

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        12 hours ago

        Privileges and rights an application has has little to nothing to do with whether said application will be able to hide from an anti-cheat software or fool it or whatever. It’s more about being able to access different secure parts of the system, like memory, which is where everything lives basically, including game data that the cheats are supposed to manipulate in some advantageous way.

        This is what leads many to plea for server-side anti-cheat that doesn’t invade the privacy of the end user (the client).

        The games that use kernel anti-cheat are still largely infested with cheaters of many sorts. At this point, defending such deep access sounds like letting some security people live with you, totally at your expense, all the time, even in the bathroom and watching you sleep and masturbate and everything, in the name of safety, because they’ll supposedly be there when some criminal comes to do some crimes, only for them to turn the blind eye when that criminal comes with proper disguise and a gun.

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        19 hours ago

        A video game is not a test you take in an exam room with a proctor monitoring you.

        If these developers want to make billions and billions of dollars on slop micro transactions and loot boxes, they can figure out how to detect these things and run more of their infrastructure server side.

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        21 hours ago

        That’s not a justified reason. To each their own, but no game is worth compromising my entire system.

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        14 hours ago

        I don’t know why you get down voted. It is not zero reason, there are reasons why Kernel anticheat is implemented. Yes, its incredible dangerous and invasive for the local player. Yes it does not catch all of them. But there is a reason why its being done.