[two characters are talking]
Vaccines have saved millions of lives you know

[a blue character points at them proudly]
Heh, look at those idiots over there, they believe in the most obvious propaganda

[the blue character is shown doing various faces]
Anyway, did you know communism killed 100 million people?
I’ve seen that 20% of the people commit 80% of the crime
Our military keeps the world a safer place
Everyone starts with opportunities, you have to earn your place in society, work harder

[sixteen variations of the blue character are shown on a multicolored grid]
Crime is out of control and keeps getting worse
Men are natural leaders, women’s nature is to nurture
Billionaires create jobs
Poor people just keep making bad decisions in life
Migrants are taking our jobs
Socialism is when we all share the same paycheck
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
If minimum wages go up, everyone will get fired, it’s math
We brought modernity to the countries we colonized
The wage gap is a myth you’re just looking at it wrong
Immigration mathematically causes crime
Developing countries are poor because of corruption
We are the good guys
If workers were worth more, they would be paid more
Universal healthcare is communism
Patriotism means supporting the troops

[a large drawing of a serious Garfield is surrounded by the infinitely repeating phrase]
YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA

https://thebad.website/comic/trust_no_one_not_even_yourself

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    The 100 million figure is anti-communist propaganda, which includes death from ww2 Russian front as well as other crappy takes.

    The Pareto principle does not apply to crime, it’s pretty obvious or you would have more than 20% criminals in the general population.

    and that is just line one of the “argument” and we are already into stupid territory…

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      The 100 million figure is anti-communist propaganda, which includes death from ww2 Russian front as well as other crappy takes.

      Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot. I’m a demsoc myself, but I’m not letting that one slide. Sure, one could argue that Holodomor or The Great Leap Forward were mostly just authoritariant projects, and that the actual communism was never attempted, but still - if you’re really just gonna call these unspeakable tragedies “crappy takes”, then sincerely - **Fuck. You. **

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      The 100 million figure is anti-communist propaganda

      right, it is a filthy lie, communists never murdered anyone, the world is actually full of happy communist states, where people are trying to immigrate to in order to achieve the ultimate happiness, we just don’t know it, because of the evil propaganda… do i get that correctly? 😂

      it’s pretty obvious or you would have more than 20% criminals in the general population.

      that is… not how math works. this you?

      spoiler

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        communists never murdered anyone

        Not what I said.

        that is… not how math works. this you?

        Literally, 80% of crimes are committed by 20% of the people. Like, literally, you can neither read nor do math.

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          Not what I said.

          oh sorry. i sort of implied from your propaganda accusation. so i assume there is some middle ground in between, some number of people that you consider acceptable to murder in order to build your communist heaven? what number is that? it wasn’t hundred million, it was just fifty, and that is totally fine?

          Literally, 80% of crimes are committed by 20% of the people.

          it’s pretty obvious or you would have more than 20% criminals in the general population.

          and now, as a homework, you can think about:

          1. what is the difference between these two statements?
          2. what condition would have to be met in order for both of them to be true at the same time?
          3. is such condition met?
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            sort of implied from your propaganda accusation.

            You are the one making propaganda accusations.

            what number is that? it wasn’t hundred million, it was just fifty,

            ~60.

            and that is totally fine?

            No. I never said anything like that either.

            But blatantly promoting or defending lies which seems to be your pastime is not fine either.

            And now, as a homework, you can learn to read and count. Start easy, like

            • 20% of criminals
            • 20% of people

            See the letters, they are different. Means they are different words with different meanings.

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              No. I never said anything like that either.

              you are trying hard to fight against a number, when it is clear to anyone with two brain cells that the number will never be accurate and will always be open to disputes. but the point is it is a big fucking number and whether it is 100 and 60m dead is not really different for establishing that communism is fucking criminal ideology.

              20% of criminals
              20% of people
              See the letters, they are different. Means they are different words with different meanings.

              the letters are indeed different, good job! i’ll skip over that part where you finally understood and are trying to pretend like you are lecturing me. whatever you need to keep your face.

              so now, since you finally understand that these two statements (20% of criminals vs 20% of people) are not the same, you are getting closer to understanding why this original statement of yours makes no sense:

              next step in your education, if you are willing, is to go read what pareto principle is, and think about how it relates to question at hand. if you get stuck anywhere, feel free to ask!

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                Nest step in your education, learn to use a dictionary.

                people /pē′pəl/ noun

                The mass of ordinary persons; the populace. Used with the. A body of persons living in the same country under one national government; a nationality. The citizens of a political unit, such as a nation or state; the electorate. Used with the. 
                
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                  yes, people and general population can be used somewhat interchangeably (if that is what you are trying to get to). good job, keep going!

                  now you really need to go to read on the pareto principle, you can’t move ahead without understanding it.

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                    yes, people and general population can be used somewhat interchangeably

                    Thank you for admitting I was right all along.

                    now you really need to go to read on the pareto principle…

                    I’m still going to hlecture you one last time since you seem to like it:

                    “20% people do 80% crime” <> “20% criminals do 80% crimes”

                    100<>60.

                    Now you can piss off and keep on living in your fantasy world where math don’t apply so you can get angry at comics.