• 1984@lemmy.today
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      Can’t joke about women! Didnt you get the memo? Joking about white men is allowed, anyone else is bad for various reasons. White privilege, yadda yadda.

      Edit: Ah, it’s Amber Turd. Forget what I said.

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        Is this one of those “believe someone because of their gender regardless of the evidence” arguments? That kind of thinking is dangerous and sexist.

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        It’s interesting there’s a sharp line between what women and men believe here. Sadly, not knowing the details makes the propaganda more likely to work. Heard and her lawyer were stupid, but that doesn’t change what likely actually happened:

        • The dog shit the bed, because of course it did it had a problem with bowel control. The fact that Depp’s team have managed to convince people of this ridiculous idea shows just how effective propaganda can be.
        • Heard was raped and abused
        • You would have to believe that Heard lied to her own therapist for months to manufacture this. Occam’s razor, no, it happened.

        The reason people don’t like Heard is:

        • She seems shifty

        That’s it.

        Here’s a video talking about it. To anyone still on Depp’s side: Maybe don’t support abusers? Maybe don’t support their narratives if you think everyone’s a scumbag? Where are the Depp memes?

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          I thought the reason people side with Depp is because there are recordings of Heard mocking him for reporting abuse and admitting to hitting him, that he initiated the split, and that she gave an op-ed that suggested he was the sole abuser.

          Typically there is a primary abuser and often a retaliatory abuser. What is in question is which is which. The concern is that people who side with Depp often do so because of their own beliefs in women being toxic. However, people who side with Heard do essentially the same. I don’t believe a clear picture of Depp being primarily abuser has been established, but would be interested if you had that information.

          Edit: also, I’m not on either of their sides. That’s one of those situations where I look at it and slowly back away. I’ll leave it to people who actually know them/have more information.

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          Or you know we can not pass around the myth of “mutual abuse” with no evidence just because Heard is kind of a shitty person in general and doesnt respond “correctly”.

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        Help me understand… did the judgement reflect that? Was Depp imprisoned or fined for being “the villian”?

        Was Amber victorious after all those legal procedures and Depp found guilty of anything?

        Did Amber have to pay anything, was she vindicated as a victim and thus rewarded?

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            Infallible isn’t even on the table. You’re saying theres something fallible with a COMPLETE LACK OF LOGIC OR EVIDENCE.

            No one agrees with you, you have no standing… That has nothing to do with the “fallibility” of anything… if anything you’re the one pretending to be infallible as you pretend to be correct while offering zero reason, justification or defense.

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              I’m a bit confused — are you talking to me, or about Amber Heard? Feeling pretty attacked, which, if that was your goal, congratulations I guess?

              For what it’s worth, I honestly did not follow the case very closely and what I did see was tons of conflicting narratives depending on where I was reading or hearing about it. I have no idea who to believe. Probably they’re both shitty people.

              None of this has anything to do with my comment about the justice system, which was in response to yours asking about the verdict, compensation, etc. as though those things mean truth. I don’t believe they do mean truth; I’ve had personal limited experience suggesting otherwise and there are plenty of cases that have ruined people’s lives that were later overturned.

              I’m not trying to be combative, but I feel a bit defensive because of what feels to me like vitriol from a random online commenter. If I misunderstood, I apologize.

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      You might be joking but this is legit the reason why dogs look at you when they poop. They are vulnerable when they poop and look to you for reassurance / protection

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      Its funny how this debate is all one way or the other. What if they are both narcissistic shitheads? I don’t know either one of them and have no reason to think they are not both shitty people.

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      I have actually wondered this from the beginning. I feel like if I hung out with either of them separately over a beer, I would think the other one is crazy.

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    You’re supposed to look away. They’re embarrassed that you’re for some reason watching the poop come out. Don’t do that.