• aaa999@lemmy.world
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    be principled and scientific theory reading guy

    genocide is a red line for me

    refuse to vote for a genocide, deny genocide joe victory, success

    trans genocide

    detainment camps that we’re gonna find out later were death camps

    increased suppression of opposition to the genocide i was talking about earlier

    success

    principled and scientific as fuck

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    “You don’t mind genocide when your team doesn it”

    Lengthy reply showing he doesn’t mind when his team doesn it

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    The first comment was aimed at finitebanjo who is clearly a Zionist imo. I don’t get how saying “what about the other genocides” is considered a valid response. FiniteBanjo ignoring Israel committing atrocities and Tankies ignoring Russia and China commiting atrocities are different sides of the same coin.

    I do find it convenient that even the most egregious Zionists like Samskara didn’t find themselves on the ban list. All the staunchly anti-Zionist communities and users got banned. Was this comm banned, it’s clearly political in nature and fits the mold. Must be a coincidence.

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      I’ve never supported Israel in any way shape or form aside from the fact that it was at one point a military strategic position in the middle east where all others have failed, but with the recent war against Iran and Lebanon they’ve proven to be more of a liability than an advantage.

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      Ask Admiral Patrick about it. Most of the regex entries are ridiculous. But imho Samskara and other Palestinian genocide apologists shouldn’t be welcome outside of their own circlejerks.

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        Fair point. Tbh, the list was such a mixed bag that it’s hard to tell either way. I know that’s the main thing I’m outspoken about so I assumed it was because of that on my end.

        I’m hoping Lemmy comes together and defederates from anyone using his front end after a small grace period.

        A shadowban list at a software level is a very slippery slope.

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      Tankies denying Chinese and Russian atrocities and maximally boosting and focusing on Israel are two sides of the same coin, because Israel is “the West” and Palestine is a former Soviet ally.

      Although funnily enough, the Soviets pushed for a two state solution and tankies mostly don’t want that I think.

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        Israel always had tensions and responded to Oct 7, they don’t deliberately target civilians, Hamas uses human shields, which leads to dead civilians. (Many rouge soldiers who go largely unpunished, but no statewide policy, so no indiscriminate bombing.) No mass graves from street executions, no children kidnapped. Moving Israelis in to replace Palestinians does happen in the west bank, but not Gaza and it’s not really state policy, although they really should crack down on that.

        This was you 3 months ago. You are exactly what I’m talking about. Don’t try and pretend you aren’t a Zionist. I don’t even have to say imo like with finitebanjo. He is subtle but you are clear about it.

        The only thing “west” about Israel is who they are blackmailing and bribing.

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          I don’t remember what that was was in response to, but it sounds like I’m comparing Israel to Russia. In which case I’m just right that Israel is way better.

          But please do tell me where I was wrong there.

          The “west” thing about Israel is that they are historically an ally of the US (still are) and a democracy with open archives, so we can see the bad things they did. None of the Arab states let people into the archives, so the comparison always feels weird.

          As for “Zionist”: Yes Israel has a right to exist. I like how the internet pretends like that’s not a completely normal opinion XD

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          And you dudes compare me to those talentless shills lacking any nuance or imagination. I’m rather insulted. Fuck Netanyahu, Israel kills more journalists and doctors than the Nazis did.

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          Could you provide a source for your quote please?

          I had a quick browse through their profile and modlog and couldn’t find it.

          I saw comments with a similar vibe so I don’t much doubt they said it, and it’s rather just a federation issue or incompetence on my end, but a link would make your quote more credible.

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            Edit: it’s in the modlog (3 months ago). I just copy pasted the middle part and dropped where he talks about Russia since it didn’t seem relevant. I didn’t want to post a wall of text.

            It’s a pattern though with him, I recognize the name.

            • TanteRegenbogen@feddit.orgOPM
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              Looks like they generally have shitty opinions. 1000059107

              I wonder how they feel about the mod of an anti-tankie comm being a eurocom.

              1000059109

              While there is no rule against being Zionist here, I will suggest to them to tread carefully because it will become very uncomfortable in here to someone who is so blatantly zionist. And I am not the one who uses the term as liberally as peeps from the tankie triad or dbzer0. Nonetheless, I take huge issue with people who deny the Palestinian genocide or any genocide for that matter (such as the trans genocide).

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                To be fair, that sounds like an oxymoron. The Communists and Anarchists usually start killing each other after the revolution.

                And yes, a communist being a mod here is sad. How do all the lib spaces get infiltrated by these LARPers.

                The second comment is just me being annoyed. “Rape” is so inaccurate and overused. The article this is from describes something more in the direction of torture than rape.

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                  Tankies aren’t communists though. Show me where they ever moved towards communism instead of a totalitarian shithole. Like I am a eurocom for example. At least we try to move closer to a communist endgoal through democratic socialism. Tankies don’t even do that. They do sham democracies with sham elections and have dictators.

                  And tankies call me an anti-communist not because I am against communism, but against tankies. They hate me for liking George Orwell, somewhat liking Tito and liking Dubcek. They hate me, because I don’t think they are communists even though they like to claim they are.

                  Also “a communist being a mod here is sad” is why you wont be welcome here anymore. You clearly can’t differentiate between communist and tankie.

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              I’m on my phone so it’s probably just incompetence on my end. I’ll have another look, ta!

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                I edited my comment, it’s just because I didn’t paste the whole comment, only the middle of it so it’s easy to scroll over.

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        Umm no, it’s a minority, don’t start thinking Zionists make up the majority and implying it’s somehow valid because there are more than one.

        I don’t block them because that is how it festers. You need to challenge them clearly, blocking them actually helps them.

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          This a better response that I was expecting. Sorry for poking you like this. Some people on Lemmy are really quick to call others zionists for disagreeing on any point they think is adjacent to Israel, which is where my comment came from. I don’t know about finitebanjo, I’ve not noticed.

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        Personally I like to keep you idiots on open comm so I can downvote, report, or otherwise make example of you. “Never interrupt your opponent while they’re making a mistake.”

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          So let’s get this straight, they called you a Zionist, I stood up for you, then you called me an idiot. Cool beans.

          Edit: on the other hand you were nice to the person who baselessly called you a Zionist. So you’re exactly the kind of person I was criticizing. A weirdo who lobs that accusation without any hesitation.

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            To be clear, in case it wasn’t your intention, what you did was stand up for Zionists, which definitely doesn’t include me. I definitely agree some people here are using the word to label people it doesn’t apply to, but at the same time being skeptical of people for zionism is warranted because there have been and are currently bad actors promoting it.

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              I very obviously did not stand up for zionists, I mocked someone for being eager to label someone else a Zionist (I assumed incorrectly) and ya know what, I actually second guessed that and thought maybe they were right. Then you come along and insult me for actually being right about you? I don’t know where you’re getting that and it is definitely not worth the effort for me to try after this interaction.

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    “Why don’t you decry the other atrocities that your government isn’t directly supporting with the same energy as the ones they are, huh??” It’s got some real “all lives matter” energy to it.