I used to work in a large fishing ship as an engineer, there I became an atheist. Once there was a huge storm and we had to balance the ship to make sure it wouldnt roll, the guy who had to do it was praying and didnt have time to balance it, we almost died because he had mandatory pray time. From than we had a rule that there is no religion on the ship, once we come back to land than you can believe.
From what I hear of Islam on e.g. fasting it tends to be quite a practical religion. I’d not be surprised if that guy could in fact have not been praying at that moment and still stuck to all the teachings of his religion.
Apparently (I’m not a scholar but was curious) in dire situations that require immediate action they could’ve prayed while helping out, even shortening it out as long as the short (verbal?) prayer is done in honesty and the situation absolutely demands it. Apparently it’s even outright disallowed to not safe yourself or others during life-and-death situations even if it prevents you from the mandatory prayer because preserving people’s lifes and your own tops those rules, at least that’s what I read so far. If that boat story is actually true that person probably was a dipshit who happened to break his own religion’s rules.
Also looked up fasting: There seems to be even more leeway on that. Just do it later if you can’t do it right now due to illness or similar, or pay “fidyah” (give poor people money for food).
Though I’m kinda curious how it’s handled when someone is too old to fast but also poor as fuck, not a situation where you’d want to also feel guilty about this.
Same as every religion, there are extremists and ignorants, like all the christians ignoring the bible and the 10 commandments while pretending that the current president of the US was handpicked by their god to save them.
Or maybe the person thought “We’re already beyond fucked, might as well die a pious death while praying, bet that will get me into the A list”, or some variation of that.
Young, expectant, illness, or age are all specifically exempt from fasting. At least that is how it works for the Baha’is, and they are to Islam as Christianity is to Judaism, so I assume they copied the rest of the fasting rules verbatim. I do know that the Muslims fast from sunup to sundown same as Baha’i
Sure. I’m skeptical that any of those disciplines except perhaps extremely minor, strict ones teach that you have to continue praying, in your knees, in an emergency.
From speaking with Muslims during Ramadan, if there’s a bona fide emergency that takes priority over prayer no questions asked. Anyone who says otherwise is an extremist or wrong.
There’s a great scene in Das Boot where the crew ends up trapped on the bottom of the Straight of Gibraltar. One guy starts fingering his rosary beads and praying and another guy punches him in the face and says “cut that shit out, we’ve got work to do!”
I used to work in a large fishing ship as an engineer, there I became an atheist. Once there was a huge storm and we had to balance the ship to make sure it wouldnt roll, the guy who had to do it was praying and didnt have time to balance it, we almost died because he had mandatory pray time. From than we had a rule that there is no religion on the ship, once we come back to land than you can believe.
From what I hear of Islam on e.g. fasting it tends to be quite a practical religion. I’d not be surprised if that guy could in fact have not been praying at that moment and still stuck to all the teachings of his religion.
Yeah this is not at all how praying works in Islam. Of course you don’t pray if you’re practically unable to do so safely.
It is also considered a sin if you choose to fast under circumstances that put your health in danger.
Apparently (I’m not a scholar but was curious) in dire situations that require immediate action they could’ve prayed while helping out, even shortening it out as long as the short (verbal?) prayer is done in honesty and the situation absolutely demands it. Apparently it’s even outright disallowed to not safe yourself or others during life-and-death situations even if it prevents you from the mandatory prayer because preserving people’s lifes and your own tops those rules, at least that’s what I read so far. If that boat story is actually true that person probably was a dipshit who happened to break his own religion’s rules.
Also looked up fasting: There seems to be even more leeway on that. Just do it later if you can’t do it right now due to illness or similar, or pay “fidyah” (give poor people money for food). Though I’m kinda curious how it’s handled when someone is too old to fast but also poor as fuck, not a situation where you’d want to also feel guilty about this.
Same as every religion, there are extremists and ignorants, like all the christians ignoring the bible and the 10 commandments while pretending that the current president of the US was handpicked by their god to save them.
Or maybe the person thought “We’re already beyond fucked, might as well die a pious death while praying, bet that will get me into the A list”, or some variation of that.
Young, expectant, illness, or age are all specifically exempt from fasting. At least that is how it works for the Baha’is, and they are to Islam as Christianity is to Judaism, so I assume they copied the rest of the fasting rules verbatim. I do know that the Muslims fast from sunup to sundown same as Baha’i
There’s a literal exception for when travelling
There are different disciplines in that religion
Sure. I’m skeptical that any of those disciplines except perhaps extremely minor, strict ones teach that you have to continue praying, in your knees, in an emergency.
From speaking with Muslims during Ramadan, if there’s a bona fide emergency that takes priority over prayer no questions asked. Anyone who says otherwise is an extremist or wrong.
There’s a great scene in Das Boot where the crew ends up trapped on the bottom of the Straight of Gibraltar. One guy starts fingering his rosary beads and praying and another guy punches him in the face and says “cut that shit out, we’ve got work to do!”
The sea is your only god here
“You disrespected the Gods for the last time, Kratos”
Narrator: It wasn’t the last time.