• Zorque@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Is this because more people are using Linux, or because less people are using desktop/laptop computers in general? GenZ/Alpha are basically just about phones these days, and large numbers of older generations are probably moving that way, if just because of the cost of PCs now.

    Not saying interest in Linux isn’t growing… but I’d imagine it’s less about that and more about traditional computers just not being as much of a thing for non-enthusiasts. Enthusiasts being the most likely to make the switch.

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    4 hours ago

    I am one of the converts from this year, still on Windows for work, but my personal set up is all Linux now. I went with Linux Mint and the transition has been seamless.

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    I don’t quite buy the theory of bot. Most of these bots are designed to be stealthy to prevent bocking, and the easiest way to do that is by changing user agents to match the most popular OS and browser, thus preventing fingerprinting.

    I am not doubting there are much more bots on the internet and many of them are using linux user agent, but I feel there also should be disproportionate amount of bot reporting as windows rather than linux.

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    When has Microsoft started enforcing that mandatory online account bullshit in Windows installer? Was it like 3 years ago? I’ve had 4 computers with Windows in my home. Now it’s just 1, the other 3 have been running Linux since then because I’m fucking sick and tired of always looking up those dumbass bypass methods. I’m only dealing with Windows on last one because of gaming. And honestly, can’t wait the day I can migrate that one to Linux full time too. Unfortunately it’s not there yet for me.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s crazy how fast that day is coming though. Seriously wild how quickly things have changed for Linux and Gaming.

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      I’ve been gaming on Pop and its been great. There’s still some use cases where windows is needed but they don’t apply to me.

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        My issue with Linux is that I lose 3/4 of controls I have with my Radeon graphic card because there is just no Adrenalin control panel at all. There is no control over FSR then, no ability to upgrade FSR3.1 to FSR4, no AFMF, no framerate limiting and optimization through Radeon Chill, no image sharpening, nothing. My Radeon is super advanced, but only under Windows. On Linux it’s just a basic rendering and output device. Then it’s multiplayer games that I play a lot, they either don’t work at all or you need to manually install all the anti-cheat crap through stupendously complicated processes and hope you don’t get banned for it. I also use ReShade a lot in games which doesn’t exist on Linux.

        If it wasn’t for all this, I’d be on Fedora or Ubuntu like I am on all other devices and they are fantastic to use for multimedia, office tools and web browsing. I actually prefer KDE or even GNOME over Windows Explorer idiocy. They are both just so nice to use unlike Windows which is arbitrary bullshit smeared on top of some other bullshit.

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          3 hours ago

          use your computer then with games and windows, and get a laptop or second PC for your normal pc experience.

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          While this is also that I miss being able to tinker with “natively” with Nvidia, you can upgrade FSR with PROTON_FSR4_UPGRADE, same with PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE, limit FPS with either DXVK_FRAME_RATE or something else like mangohud, and ReShade does exist on Linux, you just load it differently, same with stuff like Lossless Scaling. I don’t know what kind of optimizations you use from AMD, but on Nvidia it’s literally just preconfigured graphics settings. Anticheats are shit from a butt, yeah.

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          Care to give an example which anti cheat games you’re talking about? I’m aware of a few ( like the most recent battlefield) which doesn’t work because EA just doesn’t want to allow it.

          But I’m pretty sure I’ve played online games which have anti cheat and it just works without any convoluted install mechanisms.

          Maybe these are different games than the ones you’re trying to play.

          I don’t know when you last tried gaming on Linux. It’s made a lot of improvements the past few years, but maybe the games you’re mentioning are still wonky.

          Sadly that has more to do with games/publishers denying Linux rather than Linux not being able to run the game. The latter is something the proton devs can work on, the former is just hoping for the gamedev/publisher to not be a dick.

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      I don’t know exactly what’s going on. But I do know that 3.5% to 10.5% in a few months is so beyond anything ever observed before, the notion that this is users adopting Linux over Windows/Mac cleanly and organically severely strains my credulity.

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      6 hours ago

      Bots are rarely so subtle to be indistinguishable. The loading times on headless alone would give them away.

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        Statcounter doesn’t have sophisticated bot detection like Cloudflare. Look at Cloudflare’s stats for the same period and filter for “likely human”. The percentage craters back to reality. So while I think “The loading times on headless alone would give them away.” is total bullshit, they can still be detectable using other heuristics and an awful lot of machine learning.

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          4 hours ago

          StatCounter is hosted on Cloudflare DNS but if you’ve got more information about their data sources I could check if those filter bots as well.

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              Statcounter monitors traffic on every website that implements it, the majority of those are likely Cloudflare or similar DNS, but we don’t really know for sure.

              The source is NOT people who visit Statcounter.

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                What does DNS have to do with anything? DNS isn’t involved in this data gathering. Cloudflare uses DNS to enable proxying, proxying is how they gather OS data.

                Statcounter’s data is from visitors to pages with their JS embedded. That’s their whole business model. No one said it was visitors to the Statcounter website iself.

                Have you considered that you might not actually know what you’re talking about?

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                  You not knowing what a DNS is in this context or what CloudFlare does sort of makes a reasonable response impossible without typing multiple paragraphs.

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    I wonder how much is absolute user gains and what proportion is explained by people leaving the desktop pool because mobile is enough for their basic use cases.