Imagine being so naive that you believe the propaganda coming out of countries known for their well-documented disinformation policies.
Edit: Imagine being so naive to think that a statement about one thing is somehow also a statement about other things not specifically mentioned. Y’all must clearly also have trouble with statements like “Black Lives Matter” don’t you?
I think that’s kind of the problem in general, the real issue is, the firewalls and controls. It’s not about believing the western propoganda, but simply the lack of non-propoganda sources. IE how can you find out if finland’s policies are better than america’s.
Hop into a public chat room, chat with someone from finland, or book a vacation to Finland or maybe find someone from Finland who’s visiting or moved to the united states.
Think of it this way: how can you know the Finnish person you’re talking to is how the average Fin lives? How do you know you’re not talking to a bot?
If a Fin can travel to other countries, theyre already part of Finland’s privileged classes. They surely don’t represent the lower classes, which are usually the masses.
Now when it comes to visiting DPRK, you can always do that assuming youre not an American. Your government doesn’t allow it. But countries that don’t see the DPRK as an enemy state that needs to be destroyed see thousands of tourists visiting the DPRK every year.
You can still talk to exchange students who attend Kim Il Sung university and other visitors to the DPRK. There are also those from the DPRK who work abroad, such as those in China, as well as those who live in New York for UN purposes.
Yes, it‘s truly insane that people trust the West so blindly, even though it’s well documented how the CIA and the West in general used misinformation and propaganda to destabilize communities and whole countries. Why should anyone think they ever stopped doing that? And what is it with their billionaires owned “free press”? Who would trust that?
Sure. Go look it up for yourself. It isn’t hard to find. You don’t need my consent or permission to do your own homework. Nobody’s going to do it for you.
This is just the antivax “do your own research” but for defending the geopolitical opinions that were imprinted into you by Epsteinland🇺🇲🇮🇱 before you were old enough to ask questions, which is very on-brand for them.
You made a claim, you back it up. Show me something.
You started with “I don’t owe you my time” and then wrote a paragraph-long crashout when posting evidence of your claims would have taken you five seconds.
To be fair, that’s something a person who realizes that the western system is a failure, but still uncritically guzzles propaganda about western adversaries would believe.
What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not “free thinkers,” the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or “common sense,” which is in reality ruling class ideology.
Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it’s very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative?
Imagine being so naive that you believe the propaganda coming out of countries known for their well-documented disinformation policies.
Edit: Imagine being so naive to think that a statement about one thing is somehow also a statement about other things not specifically mentioned. Y’all must clearly also have trouble with statements like “Black Lives Matter” don’t you?
Yea, imagine believing western countries, amirite?
Definitely, people in western countries rarely leave their bubble of the 5 or so anti-communist media companies that control everything they see.
You must be confused. I don’t trust western propaganda one bit.
I think that’s kind of the problem in general, the real issue is, the firewalls and controls. It’s not about believing the western propoganda, but simply the lack of non-propoganda sources. IE how can you find out if finland’s policies are better than america’s.
Hop into a public chat room, chat with someone from finland, or book a vacation to Finland or maybe find someone from Finland who’s visiting or moved to the united states.
Not something you can really do with North Korea.
Think of it this way: how can you know the Finnish person you’re talking to is how the average Fin lives? How do you know you’re not talking to a bot?
If a Fin can travel to other countries, theyre already part of Finland’s privileged classes. They surely don’t represent the lower classes, which are usually the masses.
Now when it comes to visiting DPRK, you can always do that assuming youre not an American. Your government doesn’t allow it. But countries that don’t see the DPRK as an enemy state that needs to be destroyed see thousands of tourists visiting the DPRK every year.
You can still talk to exchange students who attend Kim Il Sung university and other visitors to the DPRK. There are also those from the DPRK who work abroad, such as those in China, as well as those who live in New York for UN purposes.
Yes, it‘s truly insane that people trust the West so blindly, even though it’s well documented how the CIA and the West in general used misinformation and propaganda to destabilize communities and whole countries. Why should anyone think they ever stopped doing that? And what is it with their billionaires owned “free press”? Who would trust that?
That’s exactly why I don’t put stock in the insane mythologies put forward by capitalist oligarchies about their enemies.
Can I see some of this documentation?
Sure. Go look it up for yourself. It isn’t hard to find. You don’t need my consent or permission to do your own homework. Nobody’s going to do it for you.
This is just the antivax “do your own research” but for defending the geopolitical opinions that were imprinted into you by Epsteinland🇺🇲🇮🇱 before you were old enough to ask questions, which is very on-brand for them.
You made a claim, you back it up. Show me something.
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You started with “I don’t owe you my time” and then wrote a paragraph-long crashout when posting evidence of your claims would have taken you five seconds.
They’re always like “I don’t owe you my time!” and then proceed to fight for days in 20 replies deep threads.
Go back to reddit you fucking dork
New tagline material tbh
Go back to reddit
Like America?
The irony is palpable.
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To be fair, that’s something a person who realizes that the western system is a failure, but still uncritically guzzles propaganda about western adversaries would believe.
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What specific actions by Kim Jong Un equate him to Trump? The reason I ask is because, through cultural hegemony, we are trained in an almost Pavlovian way to immediately associate anything related to the DPRK as bad. We are not “free thinkers,” the way we think is shaped by the ruling class in society. We have to be cognizant of this and constantly question whether we believe what we do based on facts, or “common sense,” which is in reality ruling class ideology.
Being able to name specific, concrete policies by Kim Jong Un you believe to be bad would help make this a more objective judgement. For example, how do you feel about the 20x10 policy? Is it harmful, beneficial, too ambitious, not ambitious enough? For Trump, it’s very easy to point to the war on Iran, embargo on Cuba, expansion of ICE, etc. as actual problems, but when we think of Kim Jong Un, what policies actually come to mind as negative?
My guy, you really need to understand how materialism works. You got the spirit. Keep at it. All of us had our learning curves
Ok there genius, explain to me what a just leader who isn’t corrupt would be doing differently? https://www.wsj.com/world/asia/north-korea-economy-success-e80f7062
Who told you that NK “sucks”, and why do you trust them?
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Then why say anything at all?
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They’re all Tankies, including the mods. Just ignore the thread and move on with your life.
Oh god even the mods, oh fuck they’re gaining power we need to call the nazis in to kill them in the name of democracy
100% of the time this is code for “you’re not going to be satisfied with my answer.”