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    As someone with a strong autistic sense of justice and hyper empathy, usually the fight is between the psychopaths and whatever idiots they’ve manipulated to their cause against the rest of us. They’re psychopaths and narcissists, they have no morals. That’s why they’re evil. You can’t appeal to morality that isn’t there. There’s only one way to deal with them and they’ll pick us off one by one, like they always do, while we hem and haw with delusion about how everything will be ok.

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    Dr. King’s policy was, if you are nonviolent, if you suffer, your opponent will see your suffering and will be moved to change his heart. That’s very good. He only made one fallacious assumption. In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.

    Stokely Carmichael

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      “Nonviolence is fine, as long as it works.” — Malcolm X

      “In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience.” — Stokely Carmichael

      “A riot is the language of the unheard.” — Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      A bunch of European monarchies also voluntarily granted power to democratic institutions.

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      I’m pretty sure MLK only worked because the Black Panthers were doing a good/bad cop thing.

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        Yeah, basically. Between MLK and Malcolm X, no matter how you wanted to resist, they had you covered. That’s why the government killed them both.

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        And the changes MLK sought only came following the race riots after his death. I don’t want to discredit him because he was essential to the civil rights movement, but ultimately his martyrdom is what brought the change he fought for

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        I’m pretty sure the Black Panthers only worked because MLK was doing a good/bad cop thing.

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          a) I was talking about the specific situation OP described, not any abusive/bad relationship ever

          b) If it was abusive that would likely have made it violent (psychological violence is violence)

          c) “Voluntary” as in they could choose to leave without threat to their safety/wellbeing, not “oh boy I wholeheartedly desire this.”

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    What a detached-from-reality take. I’m not saying that appealing to the moral sense of the oppressors usually works (it doesn’t) but when a group of people successfully gains their freedom, it’s usually by appealing to that moral sense. After all, if the oppressor wasn’t stronger than the oppressed, there probably wouldn’t have been oppression in the first place.

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      Yeah, but it’s won by appealing to the moral sense of the masses. OP specifies “the people who were oppressing them”.