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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27603744
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Ukraine was invaded, and Palestine was invaded so yeah both has the right to defend themselves
Why too simplistic:
Palestine got invaded, ethnically cleaned and massively murdered for decades.
Ukraine was cultural a divided country where West and Russia alike used one band or the other to rein power on the entire country. However in 2014 the West overstep the pro-West, pro-Russia alternation with a Coup. Immediately 1/3 of the country got itself completely disfranchised (no vote, no representation, no even could speak its language) and a civil war ensured and then even that 1/3 got without no pensions or services. The sad thing is that the coup was not even needed since Viktor Yanukovych was going to be voted out in just 11 months, but Washington was not having it and needed its coup to put the alternation to an end and be able to make its long-wished constitutional changes to Ukraine . The rest is history.
Russia is not saint here, not at all, but Russia did get invaded and massacred multiple times by the West and every single time through Ukraine… I think if Moscow have a bit if concern it is perfectly warranted. Ukraine should have done what Finland did in 1940s-2010s, side with the West but full warranties to Russia of being fully Neutral and away from NATO.
genuine, where do .mls find antipalestenians in lemmy? I have never seen a single one here outside of blatant trolls whenever someone posts a meme like this
Plenty of “pro-palestinians” around who condemn hamas and the rest of the resistance groups or call them terrorists etc.
Not a tanki but most people here reject Palestinian right to defend themselves or defend the Zionist ideology or bring neutral towards it
just gonna post the same comment I made last time this was posted:
the lemmyworlds and their orbiters are gonna be upset about this one
Can’t forget the sjw users
Did you open a history book in your life? Violence is always the answer
You can identify the liberals in this thread because they dislike this, but can’t provide a single credible argument against it.
Oh this also applies when pointing out Ukrainian attacks on world food supplies!
They did what
https://quokk.au/comment/5587173
Russia is the world’s largest wheat exporter and most of those exports are shipped via its Black Sea ports like Novorossiysk. Russia’s main grain lobby group warned last month that Ukrainian drone attacks could shut down grain exports via the Black Sea in the near future, pushing up prices and causing hunger in Africa and the Middle East.
Send both of them every tank in existence.
It gets messier when you remember that the current government of Ukraine is an ally of the Zionist entity and is providing air defense expertise to the perpetrators of the Gaza genocide, as well as participating in America’s aggression towards Iran. So while I understand the instinct, the unfortunate blunt reality is that these two sides are diametrically opposed.
Russia is also the ally of Israel
Do they have much of a choice while they’re being invaded?
ahh, yes, what else could they do when they’re being invaded other than committing genocide. poor ukronazis!
OK. So they should let Russia run their tanks through their towns and take over? What’s the take here?
They could have made a peace settlement a month in to the war in March 2022, given the DPR and LPR independence and not had to deal with anymore Russian invasions. But instead they listened to people like Boris Johnson enthusiastically telling them to fight to the last Ukrainian because we’ll keep giving you weapons.
That specifically is fair. That was a fairly small window of time though.
i dunno you could try and fight against the invasion or whatever cia fairy tale you tell yourself to believe you’re not a nazi yet without supporting a literal nazi state? oh yeah, the ukronazis are also fascist bastards so that’s what they want.
So they didn’t invade? You can call them Nazis all you like but let’s live in reality.
Germany was a Nazi state and they got invaded, whats your point
Does that matter to the people the UKR military kills in Iran and helps kill in Palestine?
But no, the Ukranian people have not had a choice in anything since having their government surgically replaced in 2014, or for that matter since having their government illegally dissolved in 1991.
My point with this specific post, as an olive branch to people who may not be familiar with the communist position, is not “Ukraine bad” so much as “This is what eventually happens to every American ‘ally’ no matter what promises have been made to the contrary, and other countries had best take notice”.
That’s a position I respect. Yep.
Yes American promises are why Russia invaded despite being signatories to a treaty guaranteeing Ukrainian sovereignty.
I’m not gonna get into this with a tankie
Make like June 4, 1989 and never happen
Literally no one denies that June 4, 1989 happened. What we disagree on is what happened.
Make like June 4, 1989 and never happen
Nice strawman.
Lowkey it was funny though, haven’t heard that one before
It’s a bit too wordy imo to be an effective stand in for “fuck off” imo lacks flow and rhythm.
I’m sorry I can’t hear you over the Firewall.
Sorry I don’t speak insufferable Reddit dork you’ll have to translate it or fuck off.
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Dork
Fuck off
You liberals get cooked every single time because you have no arguments.
It’s that winning combination of perfectly ignorant and perfectly smug about it that makes you people so odious. Enjoy being on the Nazi side of World War 3 I suppose. Just don’t say you weren’t warned, because you’re being warned right now.
Blah blah blah
Free Tibet.
Already did
Nice crashout.
Loving this low effort controversy bait! LOVING IT. LOOOOOOOVE IT. NOT.
Why not?
it’s bait for the nazi sympathizers to reveal themselves so they can catch a ban
NOT.
1992 called; they want their sarcasm back.
