• forbiddencherry@lemmy.today
      17·
      10 hours ago

      For recursive behavior, tell me if each of these requires -r or -R (or either) without looking it up (man page, --help, web, etc):

      • chown
      • cp
      • ls
      • rsync
      • scp
      • zip
      • MoffKalast@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 hours ago

        Also whoever decided what the tar flags will be needs to be hit with a brick, repeatedly if possible.

      • dadarobot@lemmy.ml
        2·
        6 hours ago

        without looking it up:

        chown -R

        cp -r

        ls -r

        rsync. (idk, i always google this one)

        scp -r

        zip -r

        but why not look it up? you either use a tool and arguments often enough to memorize it, or you don’t.

        • forbiddencherry@lemmy.today
          2·
          6 hours ago

          It’s not about looking it up or not, it’s a challenge to the boasting of the commenter above me in the context of the OP’s post.

          • dadarobot@lemmy.ml
            1·
            6 hours ago

            ah yeah that’s fair. but also i kinda agree with that person’s response. getting frustrated with linux doesnt mean linux sucks, it means you are learning. ive been using linux for over 20 years, and i still find plenty of things that take me out of my element. and that’s a good thing.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        9 hours ago

        without looking it up (man page, --help, web, etc):

        But why? Why would you need to do this when we have access to these tools?

        Pointless test.

      • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
        2·
        8 hours ago

        -R -r -R -r -r -r I think

        I don’t know if this is true, but if yes, then -R is a GNU weirdness No wait that doesn’t make sense. ls is also GNU.

      • craftrabbit@lemmy.zip
        3·
        10 hours ago

        Oh god oh damn my kde doesn’t tell me that…

        Okay I’ll give it a whirl:

        • chown: yes, I think
        • cp: no, pretty sure
        • ls: what? Like for a tree? For folder size? Idk I say yes because there’s nothing recursive to me about standard ls
        • rsync: literally no clue have never used it but I’d guess no
        • scp: yes pretty confident
        • zip: yes also pretty confident

        The actual reason I barely ever find Linux annoying is because my Fedora KDE just does all I need it to pretty much all the time.

        • forbiddencherry@lemmy.today
          3·
          10 hours ago

          With ls you can list the contents of directories recursively. Or you can list the contents in reverse order. One of them requires a lowercase “r”, one requires uppercase, but which is which? It’s not such a big deal that different commands have inconsistent syntax, but even having run Linux as my primary OS since 2004, and before that Unix since 1993, I still have to look these up sometimes.

        • craftrabbit@lemmy.zip
          2·
          10 hours ago

          Aight I got cp wrong, which is kinda silly since I knew it for scp but I’m happy with that nonetheless

      • forbiddencherry@lemmy.today
        2·
        10 hours ago

        A couple more challenges:

        • As an unprivileged user, append multiple lines to a file owned by root, using sudo and a here document.
        • Redirect both stdout and stderr to a file using Bourne shell syntax (not bash!)
      • tyler@programming.dev
        2·
        10 hours ago

        Every damn time.

        I think rsync is lowercase, and maybe zip. The rest I think are uppercase. Complete guess though.

      • Eager Eagle@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 hours ago

        funny I never had this specific issue with recursive behavior. I find it obvious that only rsync and zip are recursive by default, but I’m not sure why.

        edit: ah you mean which ones are lowercase or uppercase, that makes more sense.