But in liberal sexual relationships that these Mcnogamist want exclusive rights to?
We comprehend intimacy “cheating.” These people want exclusive sexual obligations.
I have zero issue with people expressing themselves sexually in relationships that aren’t non Monogamous, but eople should be in the loop on what kind of relationship you’re in with them.
I personally wouldn’t want to be in a non-monogamous relationship. Even when I was single I didn’t like dating multiple girls at the same time.
When I meet my wife I had been on a few dates with someone and had a date planned for the next day. The person I had been seeing called off our date morning of and that’s when I asked my coworker who introduced us to give her my number.
I’ve had FWBs but didn’t date others while we were hooking up. Was down to hangout and have sex with them but not build a romantic relationship but I was still monogamous with them and all I asked is they give me the choice of they start sleeping with someone else
The women standing in this picture could be in a polycule situation with the dude at the table and he could be stepping out on all of them with the seated woman. It could be a group of single women playing a mean-spirited prank on their friend’s lame first date. It could also be completely fake and made for attention.
I know there are a lot of monogamous people out there who talk shit about polyamory, largely out of ignorance or envy, but there’s no need to mirror that energy back at them. It won’t change their minds or stop the shit talk and it just increases the level of negativity surrounding the conversation. Remember, the sweetest revenge against your haters is to live your best life.
Have you considered the third possibility that I mentioned? That it might be fake and for attention?
the sexual liberal partner
You’re aware that polyamorous relationships require clear communication and boundaries to not become abusive, correct? Just like monogamous ones do? From your word choice when talking about a potential cheater, I’m getting the impression that you don’t actually know what a healthy relationship is let alone what a healthy polyamorous relationship is.
…but judging by your other responses in this thread a productive conversation is not in the offing, so I’ll just end my part of it here and wish you a good day.
I’m not. The worst part is, is making this a public spectacle. If it were a “step out” situation, why include the public & a private franchise to milk the situation? The reason we even have this picture is because these sexual domineers wanted to publicly shame the sexual liberal partner.
Remember, the sweetest revenge against your haters is to live your best life.
Then why shame a liberated partner in public, in a restaurant, for us to even have a captioned snapchat crop?
Anyway… being poly isn’t a bad thing. Being poly and lying to a partner that your monogamous, kinda is. If one party of a relationship changes their mind after commitments are made, the other party should be made aware before anything is acted on. If not, they are a lying piece of shit that can’t be trusted. Pretending to be monogamous just to trick someone into a relationship until your bored with them, despicable.
You need a tumblr account to see Kaijuno’s blog, which is the source of the snapchat crop.
We comprehend intimacy “cheating.”
Being poly and lying to a partner that your monogamous, kinda is
Let’s skip patronizing me about being dishonest in relationships. Did this sexual liberal lie to these mcnos? Yes. Does he deserve to be outed for dishonesty? Absolutely yes. Do these mcnos need to make this a public snapchat event? [insert your morality here]
Will they go to court to settle the divorce proceedings? Absolutely 200% yes.
My issue is with western bigamy domineering that even allowed this snapchat to take place. Not that the dishonest partner got exposed for dishonesty. But that monogamist are leopards predating on law enforcement.
How much media that is put out is just because people engage with scandalous shit? If people didn’t, we might not have had to deal with reality shows or viral media apps. Of course there will be people using social media that want to be part of that. Sex and scandals sell.
I do think it’s odd that you think that me sharing my own views is patronizing you. I just gave my 2cents, from my personal experience, relating to cheating partners.
Not all cheaters are poly, seen many cheaters choose a monogamous relationship later in life. They were just too cowardly to be open and honest with their partner(s) or worse (in my opinion), openly lied to a partner about their cheating. Some were poly, and it was a realization they were aiming for a relationship they didn’t really want, but had been raised by a society that said they did, and had tried to believe it. Does not excuse the cheating though.
My real only point is/was: Whatever your sexual preferences are, lying to an intimate partner about who you are intimate with is a shit move, and makes that liar shitty.
It maybe that you don’t know how liberated and anarchist I am, that I want public shaming sexual dominant groups to cease existing in the 21c.
We both agree dishonesty should be condemned. But these mcnogamist domineered their relationship with the man, to make it a spectacle, and not divorce handout. Liars do deserve to be outed, but these domineers also wanted exclusive access to his sexual activities.
Lying is shit. Dominating others is shittier.
I don’t even know what you are trying to claim? You keep linking to a wiki article that just lists the status of legal polygamy in different countries and hoping people draw the same conclusions you have.
You also keep claiming that the man being accused of cheating is sexually liberal just because he has chosen to cheat, but I think that you would have to assume that he didn’t expect his partner to be A monogamist for him to be actually liberal about sex and not just an asshole.
Countries with legal Polygamy can still utilize social shaming and the law to sexually oppress their partners. In fact some of those states have some of the most severe punishments for infidelity on the planet, and they are typically hyper patriarchal and have laws only utilized against women.
You can’t be sexually liberal while still expecting your partner to practice monogamy.
Notice the sign says “I love McCheating on my wife”. Not “I love McLying to my partners.” My issue is with monogamous domineers, not dishonesty. Jealousy is fickle thing, dishonesty is a grave error.
utilize social shaming and the law to sexually oppress their partners.
Something I hope we disavow.
You can’t be sexually liberal while still expecting your partner to practice monogamy.
But the opposite situation is what transpired here:
monogamous domineers expected honesty in a sexually liberal society. Otherwise this wouldn’t be public shaming McChat event, it would be “the divorce papers are finalized! 😁✌️×4 😭” “omg bae, when my cray fae in crime tells me ‘not to worry about it kitten’”
There is nothing wrong in wanting sexual exclusivity, in the same way there is nothing wrong in wanting more than one partner.
Seeing either as “oppression” is limited mindset.
I literally linked you law. <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”> law. Law that is used to litigate the divorce industry. These people are sexual leopards. It’s morally wrong to apply sexual exclusivities in order to sexual oppress partners. You can believe sexual exclusivities and romance rn’t modern moral quandaries, but these are the leopards eating each others faces party, using law to justify their oppressions.
Be aware, as a black anarchist polyeros, I disavow these domineers. But stating facts as I observe them doesn’t mean I avow sexual oppressions.
Yeah but it’s too much redpilled jargon to be understood by a simple mortal like me. So I’ll leave you to it since it’s starting to sound a lot like “anyone that doesn’t have my specific and niche point of view is an enemy and must be educated” and I don’t feel like being educated by someone that uses this amount of emoticons
That’s a broken link, but am I correct in assuming that you are claiming the high rate of divorce in the US compared to countries that practice polygamy is due to some kind of expectation of monogamy and not due to something like the legality of no fault divorce?
I am claiming these sexual oppressors profit through litigations, not dishonesty & contract litigations. The spectacle is clearly captioned as “McCheating on my wife,” and not “McLying to my [sexually liberated] partner.” Let’s not deny there are profit incentives in these relationships.
Is it sexual oppression if both parties consented to the relationship being predicated on monogamy?
“McCheating on my wife,” and not “McLying to my [sexually liberated] partner.”
Again, I’m a bit confused on what your definition of sexually liberated really means.
Let’s not deny there are profit incentives in these relationships
I don’t think many relationships are started with profit incentive on their mind. Plus, no one in the US can force you to agree to a monogamist marriage if you didn’t first agree to it.
Also, I’m not the one down voting your responses. I’m not trying to be overly critical, I think you have a unique perspective and I’m just trying to comprehend fully what you are trying to say.
I don’t think anyone was trying to claim shaming culture wasn’t still around. I’m not sure what all entails to your use of the term monogamous domineers.
Is the wife domineering over the husband by divorcing him? Wouldn’t that just allow him to be sexually liberated to sleep with whom he wants?
What is the alternative in this scenario? For the man to continue being sexually liberal and force his wife to either adopt his views or be in a relationship structure she does not consent too?
The wives, 3+, are using this spectacle to shame the dishonest man. How do you not see shaming culture is dominating both, the relationship, the public, and the legal system?
What is the alternative in this scenario?
I gave 4 examples already, on how to liberally praxis liberal sexual autonomy, and still deal with a dishonest individual. I am not sure how I can make it more boomer literate for you. May I also suggest you research modern day sexual liberation research on your own?
wives, 3+, are using this spectacle to shame the dishonest man. How do you not see shaming culture is dominating both, the relationship, the public, and the legal system?
Again, I never made the argument that shame culture wasn’t widely prevalent, influential, or good.
I gave 4 examples already, on how to liberally praxis liberal sexual autonomy, and still deal with a dishonest individual. I am not sure how I can make it more boomer literate for you. May I also suggest you research modern day sexual liberation research on your own?
This comment was made before you specified your criticism was about the concept and not aimed solely a particular individual in this example.
Monogamy hysterics strike again⚡
Cheating can happen in polyamorous relationships as well.
yes
being in a polycule, id consider it cheating if a partner hid another relationship from me
But in liberal sexual relationships that these Mcnogamist want exclusive rights to?
We comprehend intimacy “cheating.” These people want exclusive sexual obligations.
the problem with “cheating” is the dishonesty NOT the social unacceptability
Then the sign would say:
I have zero issue with people expressing themselves sexually in relationships that aren’t non Monogamous, but eople should be in the loop on what kind of relationship you’re in with them.
I personally wouldn’t want to be in a non-monogamous relationship. Even when I was single I didn’t like dating multiple girls at the same time.
When I meet my wife I had been on a few dates with someone and had a date planned for the next day. The person I had been seeing called off our date morning of and that’s when I asked my coworker who introduced us to give her my number.
I’ve had FWBs but didn’t date others while we were hooking up. Was down to hangout and have sex with them but not build a romantic relationship but I was still monogamous with them and all I asked is they give me the choice of they start sleeping with someone else
you may want to comment this on the main post instead.
I am criticising monogamist is this thread, using laws to enforce their monogamy.
Making a lot of assumptions here.
The women standing in this picture could be in a polycule situation with the dude at the table and he could be stepping out on all of them with the seated woman. It could be a group of single women playing a mean-spirited prank on their friend’s lame first date. It could also be completely fake and made for attention.
I know there are a lot of monogamous people out there who talk shit about polyamory, largely out of ignorance or envy, but there’s no need to mirror that energy back at them. It won’t change their minds or stop the shit talk and it just increases the level of negativity surrounding the conversation. Remember, the sweetest revenge against your haters is to live your best life.
Wtf is that sus link?
Have you considered the third possibility that I mentioned? That it might be fake and for attention?
You’re aware that polyamorous relationships require clear communication and boundaries to not become abusive, correct? Just like monogamous ones do? From your word choice when talking about a potential cheater, I’m getting the impression that you don’t actually know what a healthy relationship is let alone what a healthy polyamorous relationship is.
…but judging by your other responses in this thread a productive conversation is not in the offing, so I’ll just end my part of it here and wish you a good day.
I’m not. The worst part is, is making this a public spectacle. If it were a “step out” situation, why include the public & a private franchise to milk the situation? The reason we even have this picture is because these sexual domineers wanted to publicly shame the sexual liberal partner.
Then why shame a liberated partner in public, in a restaurant, for us to even have a captioned snapchat crop?
That link shows a chicken with pigtails?
Anyway… being poly isn’t a bad thing. Being poly and lying to a partner that your monogamous, kinda is. If one party of a relationship changes their mind after commitments are made, the other party should be made aware before anything is acted on. If not, they are a lying piece of shit that can’t be trusted. Pretending to be monogamous just to trick someone into a relationship until your bored with them, despicable.
Edit, lost my last word on posting.
You need a tumblr account to see Kaijuno’s blog, which is the source of the snapchat crop.
Let’s skip patronizing me about being dishonest in relationships. Did this sexual liberal lie to these mcnos? Yes. Does he deserve to be outed for dishonesty? Absolutely yes. Do these mcnos need to make this a public snapchat event? [insert your morality here]
Will they go to court to settle the divorce proceedings? Absolutely 200% yes.
My issue is with western bigamy domineering that even allowed this snapchat to take place. Not that the dishonest partner got exposed for dishonesty. But that monogamist are leopards predating on law enforcement.
Mcnogamists strike again⚡
How much media that is put out is just because people engage with scandalous shit? If people didn’t, we might not have had to deal with reality shows or viral media apps. Of course there will be people using social media that want to be part of that. Sex and scandals sell.
I do think it’s odd that you think that me sharing my own views is patronizing you. I just gave my 2cents, from my personal experience, relating to cheating partners. Not all cheaters are poly, seen many cheaters choose a monogamous relationship later in life. They were just too cowardly to be open and honest with their partner(s) or worse (in my opinion), openly lied to a partner about their cheating. Some were poly, and it was a realization they were aiming for a relationship they didn’t really want, but had been raised by a society that said they did, and had tried to believe it. Does not excuse the cheating though.
My real only point is/was: Whatever your sexual preferences are, lying to an intimate partner about who you are intimate with is a shit move, and makes that liar shitty.
It maybe that you don’t know how liberated and anarchist I am, that I want public shaming sexual dominant groups to cease existing in the 21c. We both agree dishonesty should be condemned. But these mcnogamist domineered their relationship with the man, to make it a spectacle, and not divorce handout. Liars do deserve to be outed, but these domineers also wanted exclusive access to his sexual activities.
Lying is shit. Dominating others is shittier.
I don’t even know what you are trying to claim? You keep linking to a wiki article that just lists the status of legal polygamy in different countries and hoping people draw the same conclusions you have.
You also keep claiming that the man being accused of cheating is sexually liberal just because he has chosen to cheat, but I think that you would have to assume that he didn’t expect his partner to be A monogamist for him to be actually liberal about sex and not just an asshole.
Countries with legal Polygamy can still utilize social shaming and the law to sexually oppress their partners. In fact some of those states have some of the most severe punishments for infidelity on the planet, and they are typically hyper patriarchal and have laws only utilized against women.
You can’t be sexually liberal while still expecting your partner to practice monogamy.
These folks are <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”>. Bigamy is illegal there. These Mcnogamists have already filed divorce proceedings.
Notice the sign says “I love McCheating on my wife”. Not “I love McLying to my partners.” My issue is with monogamous domineers, not dishonesty. Jealousy is fickle thing, dishonesty is a grave error.
Something I hope we disavow.
But the opposite situation is what transpired here:
monogamous domineers expected honesty in a sexually liberal society. Otherwise this wouldn’t be public shaming McChat event, it would be “the divorce papers are finalized! 😁✌️×4 😭” “omg bae, when my cray fae in crime tells me ‘not to worry about it kitten’”
Cheating isn’t about monogamy, it’s about lack of respect for the other part
Not in Mcnogamy. These are sexual domineers.
We both comprehend intimacy betrayal.
Heck, even dignity tarnish.
But sexual oppression, in the 21st‽
There is nothing wrong in wanting sexual exclusivity, in the same way there is nothing wrong in wanting more than one partner.
Seeing either as “oppression” is limited mindset.
I literally linked you law. <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”> law. Law that is used to litigate the divorce industry. These people are sexual leopards. It’s morally wrong to apply sexual exclusivities in order to sexual oppress partners. You can believe sexual exclusivities and romance rn’t modern moral quandaries, but these are the leopards eating each others faces party, using law to justify their oppressions.
Be aware, as a black anarchist polyeros, I disavow these domineers. But stating facts as I observe them doesn’t mean I avow sexual oppressions.
As a polyero, would you start a relationship with someone that wants a monogamous relationship?
please read the 🧵. I already answered this question, twice.
Yeah but it’s too much redpilled jargon to be understood by a simple mortal like me. So I’ll leave you to it since it’s starting to sound a lot like “anyone that doesn’t have my specific and niche point of view is an enemy and must be educated” and I don’t feel like being educated by someone that uses this amount of emoticons
You can also pick up a book.
But thank you for disengaging.🙇
“I linked you a paper please agree”
Lmao. You scream about liberation yet you’re the one wanting to control other people’s relationships.
Reading comprehension maybe another thing Mcnogamists lack. Try rereading @ruby@lemmy.dbzer0.com, AdolfSchmitler, @athatet@lemmy.zip, & @azalea_flower@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Ayyo. Get my name outcha damn mouth.
your rank.
That’s a broken link, but am I correct in assuming that you are claiming the high rate of divorce in the US compared to countries that practice polygamy is due to some kind of expectation of monogamy and not due to something like the legality of no fault divorce?
I am claiming these sexual oppressors profit through litigations, not dishonesty & contract litigations. The spectacle is clearly captioned as “McCheating on my wife,” and not “McLying to my [sexually liberated] partner.” Let’s not deny there are profit incentives in these relationships.
Is it sexual oppression if both parties consented to the relationship being predicated on monogamy?
Again, I’m a bit confused on what your definition of sexually liberated really means.
I don’t think many relationships are started with profit incentive on their mind. Plus, no one in the US can force you to agree to a monogamist marriage if you didn’t first agree to it.
It is sexual oppression to demand others exclusive sexual rights to a parner, and use law and state force to dominate it.
How are you confused about consentual liberated sexual societies? My definition is quite anarchist.
Then “gold digger” would not be a term, esp. in family & divorce litigation. Please update your thoughts on current year matrimony incentives.
Now I utterly need you to update your legal understanding of <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”> law. I am not going to counsel you in law. A lot of <img src=“https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/6dedb145-206a-4b35-ab5e-c9e41e1130c7.png” alt=“Amerikkka” width=“24” height=“auto”>parents still sell children to marriage against their consent. So I urge you to remove this “thought” from your mind.
Are you claiming that in countries that have legal polygamy there is no sexual oppression?
Never.
That shaming culture is alive and well in 21c, and Monogamous domineers exist, still.
Also, I’m not the one down voting your responses. I’m not trying to be overly critical, I think you have a unique perspective and I’m just trying to comprehend fully what you are trying to say.
Ah. Learn some anarchism.
I think that’s a bit patronizing, total sexual inclusivity is not a very large focus of anarchist literature as a whole.
In fact, Murray Bookchin is one of my favorite political writers.
Then keep on reading more anarchist writings on what it means to have total sexual autonomy, and total relationship agencies.
Unlike statists, I don’t use cops to maintain my autonomies and agency.
I don’t think anyone was trying to claim shaming culture wasn’t still around. I’m not sure what all entails to your use of the term monogamous domineers.
Is the wife domineering over the husband by divorcing him? Wouldn’t that just allow him to be sexually liberated to sleep with whom he wants?
What is the alternative in this scenario? For the man to continue being sexually liberal and force his wife to either adopt his views or be in a relationship structure she does not consent too?
The wives, 3+, are using this spectacle to shame the dishonest man. How do you not see shaming culture is dominating both, the relationship, the public, and the legal system?
I gave 4 examples already, on how to liberally praxis liberal sexual autonomy, and still deal with a dishonest individual. I am not sure how I can make it more boomer literate for you. May I also suggest you research modern day sexual liberation research on your own?
Again, I never made the argument that shame culture wasn’t widely prevalent, influential, or good.
This comment was made before you specified your criticism was about the concept and not aimed solely a particular individual in this example.
Then keep on educating yourself on dominant state monogamist enforcement oppressions, and leave my sexually liberated polycule alone. Mcpisce?
Mcnogamy.