Not legal in countries where you cant outright fire people. You have to get them tasks. No phone out wouldnt be enforceable unless they sit you in a bunker with no connection.
Is it? It’s your boss’ duty to provide you with work and they cannot dock your pay (outside of special circumstances) if they don’t have work for you, but they can absolutely pay you to sit around and drink coffee in case work comes around.
People gotta remember that Japan isn’t USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly
Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA
I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences.
Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know.
All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol.
On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting.
Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them.
No, you prefer to be “realist.” Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage.
Don’t be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it’s illegal and the beatings aren’t that bad anyway.
I live in a country with much better worker’s rights then Japan or the US. I’ve gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it’s rarely worth the battle. And if you do “win” you wouldn’t want to work at that place any longer. If it’s about something that could pay out big, it’s usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago.
Being realistic is knowing when it’s better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can “win” a legal battle will just make your life miserable.
Not legal in countries where you cant outright fire people. You have to get them tasks. No phone out wouldnt be enforceable unless they sit you in a bunker with no connection.
Is it? It’s your boss’ duty to provide you with work and they cannot dock your pay (outside of special circumstances) if they don’t have work for you, but they can absolutely pay you to sit around and drink coffee in case work comes around.
I believe what they’re saying is you can’t use work assignment to pressure someone to quit as a way around labor protections.
As with a lot of legal stuff, the intent matters.
It being illegal doesn’t stop people from doing it.
Take the company to court and get a fat payout 🤷
People gotta remember that Japan isn’t USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly
Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that’s wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A
I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences.
Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know.
My bad
All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol.
On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting.
Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them.
That’s crazy
And then never get hired by any company again.
Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it’s right, but you need to be realistic.
No, you prefer to be “realist.” Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage.
Don’t be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it’s illegal and the beatings aren’t that bad anyway.
I live in a country with much better worker’s rights then Japan or the US. I’ve gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it’s rarely worth the battle. And if you do “win” you wouldn’t want to work at that place any longer. If it’s about something that could pay out big, it’s usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago.
Being realistic is knowing when it’s better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can “win” a legal battle will just make your life miserable.
Taking them to court is also realistic.
From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don’t think that would be a realistic option.
Courts are now work culture, are they?
In countries with half decent worker protections this is not a problem.
Your task is to hand write copies of the company slogan for every working hour.
How is using apostrophes so hard that you just ignore it?
you can’t reassign them to paint watching?