• Oxysis/Oxy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I mean soccer is from the British so blame them for why we call it that. But it’s really not even that big of a deal since both sports are ___ football. American football is Gridiron football, and the other is Association football, both got shortened to just football which makes it confusing.

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        This is the most tired bullshit argument. If you want to hate Americans just say “I hate Americans” and move on. Do you similarly attack Aussies for their football?

        The word “football” is typically used to refer to the most popular style of football in an area. In the US that’s American football. In Australia that’s Aussie rules football. Other less common forms of football (in a given area) usually get another word to distinguish them, like rugby or soccer. All of these sports are under the umbrella of football whether you like it or not, and claiming they’re not is just plain ignorant of what the word football means.

        It’s also deeply funny that you claim the word soccer wasn’t British by… admitting that the word soccer is British. Lol.

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          If you want to hate Americans just say “I hate Americans” and move on.

          I don’t, though. That’s a bizarre strawman.

          Do you similarly attack Aussies for their football?

          At least they call theirs “Aussie Rules Football” and don’t insist on misnaming the real thing.

          The word “football” is typically used to refer to the most popular style of football in an area

          Nope. That’s just wrong. There’s what the US calls football (handegg), there’s the Aussie Rules weirdness, and then there’s what literally every other nation on the planet calls football.

          You’re acting like the outliers are the norm and it’s silly.

          All of these sports are under the umbrella of football whether you like it or not, and claiming they’re not is just plain ignorant of what the word football means.

          Nope. Pretty damn ironic to claim with a straight face that it’s ignorance to not consider the exception the norm.

          you claim the word soccer wasn’t British

          Another strawman. I never said anything of the sort.

          I said that the term hasn’t been used in the UK for centuries, which is what’s relevant to your “blame the British” argument.

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            You still don’t understand what “football” is. Association football is the most popular in the world, so in regions where it’s the most popular they call it “football” and other forms by other names. In regions where other games of football are more popular they call those sports “football” and call other forms by other names (e.g., soccer).

            You being completely ignorant of the history and current landscape of all football sports does not mean it is incorrect to call any other form of football “football.”

            Other points:

            • Much of the Anglosphere, including Australia, call association football “soccer.” It is very much not just the US.
            • Being okay with “Aussie rules football” but not “American football” is patently absurd and betrays that:
            • It was not a strawman it was a clearly accurate insight into your position that you just wanted to be anti-American, your reply here is also dripping with it.
            • I’m not saying outliers are the norm. I’m saying everywhere calls the most popular form of football in that area simply “football”
            • Your obsession with ball shape similarly betrays your ignorance of football since there are many forms of football that use more oval shaped balls.
            • Also it wasn’t a strawman when someone said the word came from the British you replied with “no.”