• alapakala@quokk.au
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    Stop giving Nazis attention.

    Boomers that are serious fans of the series know Transformers had the entire squad of queer and genders characters, all the way since first comic.
    Literally Orion Pax & Megatron were they first gay couple. Until blatantly elections got in the way. Megatron is right, oppressors need to be challenged at every step.
    3 questions to powerful institutions by Megatron — 2005 IDW continuity The Transformers 2011 Issue #23 Chaos Theory Part 2漫画Wiki

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      I respectfully disagree about giving Nazi’s attention.

      You should pay attention long enough to them to punch them in the face, or take a bat to their knees. And it’s very important that you pay them attention when aiming a gun at them, as you don’t want to hit innocent bystanders.

      Though those are the only exceptions I can think of, everything else you’re spot on about.

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          Going to say no to that, but not because I disagree with the content but because today is a day where getting enough dopamine is difficult. I will however save it and hope it doesn’t get doomboxxed so I can enjoy the content when I’m capable of giving it the attention it deserves.

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            12 hours ago

            perfectly comprehendable. ThoughtSlime took a lot of work to prepare this video essay, so please take the time to take notes on it. You‘ll find out much more than you anticipated. I know I did.

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      Point taken; but on the other hand, we can’t ignore them to death, can we? Like you said, oppressors need to be challenged at every step. I think there’s a difference between clapping back at some chud’s “gotcha” moment and allowing them into a space for debate.

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        The video addresses this directly.
        Challenging oppression means going out of our comfort, organizing, and directly acting. The Malaysian is already wanted in Malaysia, Malaysian have that challenged.

        Now, when is the Twitter Takedown?
        If we are to apply the thesis in Transformers & ThoughtSlime, X Corp Headquarters needs some renovations.

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            1 day ago

            You will just be another person mad that literally is used for emphasis, or can even mean figuratively. Language isn’t static.

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            23 hours ago

            I think a better analogy is how older people were blaming stuff done by teens on “millennials” well into the late 2010s and even early 2020s when even the youngest millennials were well into their 20s.

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              21 hours ago

              Boomer if you’re born in the 20th century, millennial if you’re born around the 21st century. That seems to be how these terms are evolving.

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              23 hours ago

              “Kids these days” has been a complaint from older generation for as long as there’s been language.

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            Well it’s not as though there’s much that can really stop you, so yes.

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            Yes, whether or not that means it becomes a popular facet of actual language is a whole different thing though, and that’s the part your are ignoring, the broad change in how words are used.

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              As much as I detest this pointless inter-generational conflict and dumb labels, if you start calling Gen X ‘Boomers’ don’t be surprised when you get pushback. If anything, Gen X has the biggest grudge against the baby boomers out of all. Those fuckers were our parents, and they sold us a lie.

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                  & @almacca@aussie.zone you’re in c/196 you can be pissed at your parents, and accept language lives. There’s a reason my wife religiously says “get with the times boomer!”

                  If you’re not keep up with your kid’s dialect, diction, language, issues, concerns, politics, acts, and feelings, you’re not really interested in making changes your parents deceived you to make. Generational abuse stops with us. and if kids want to call us boomers, so be it. It’s their language, their future, their lives.

                  I just hope they can welcome me too in the wonders they’ll achieve. If not, so be it too. I did what I could with what I knew. A home in me they have.

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        It was implied, as they were friends during the Cybertron war. After MoL fell to Orion, their friendship extremely soured.

        do robots (in disguise) even love?

        This isn’t even a worthwhile question. They are more capable than love than meets the eye.

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        I’m not a deep fan of Transformers, but I heard of a time when a transformer carried a human fetus in their robo-womb, so anything is possible.

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      In what continuity were Orion and Megatron any more than friends? In the '84 cartoon Orion has a girlfriend named Ariel who becomes Elita-1 at the same time Orion becomes Prime. He doesn’t seem to have even met Megatron yet. And I’m not sure the original comics even cover Optimus before he was Prime.

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        This was how I remember it too, but it’s been a while since I read the comics and watched the show. They used to basically be brothers. I don’t remember any implication either. But given how many decades it’s been, and my age at the time, I would have likely missed it. That being said, I looked through the TFWiki link the parent comment provided and didn’t see anything about them being more than friends.

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        There was a comic series were Orion was a pathological serial killer, and that is how Megatron befriend Pax, “enemy of my enemy.” Ariel dies in this one. I am not a fan of the series, so forgive me for not recalling the name of the retcon continuity.

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            I tried reviewing that continuity to see if it was the one I read, but the artstyle didn’t match, or Orion’s position when recruiting Megatron in the war. Plus, Megatron is the hero in Shattered Glass. The one I read still made him a villain. I found it whiplashing that as soon as Orion got the MoL, he somehow gained empathy. I stopped reading exactly there, because after all the genocide he committed on that continuity, he now regrets his actions and won’t reparate‽ What kind of monster are you writing? Empathy needs to follow up with appropriate reparations you 🤬🤬🤬🤬