There is a tiktok movement that believes that despite all evidence and witness statements, phone logs, and surveillance footage that somehow the husband is responsible.
This is supported by vibes, astrology and folk magic, it’s very strange. The court case isn’t even about who’s responsible for the murder, it’s about if the Defense has a valid insanity plea to keep her from jail or getting institutionalized.
I dated a lawyer who believed in astrology and folk magic. A lot of people believe in this shit because they are sad people and it gives meaning and magic to their life… basically Disney adult type shit.
It’s a weird situation, most insanity pleas are fought with the defense having to prove they were mentally unwell and incapable of being willingly responsible for their actions but because of the lead up to the crime, it’s being handled in reverse.
She killed those kids but doesn’t want to go to jail and pleads not guilty by insanity so she wants to be institutionalized. The plaintiff argues she wasn’t insane and was in control of her actions due to how functional she was till the last minute before the crime would have been possible as she orchestrated the conditions to allow her to commit the murders. It’s an interesting case that’s getting muddled by the publics personnel beliefs and is also being co-opted for political purposes by right-wingers as proof the 19th amendment was a mistake.
It’s insane to see how we even got to this point but it’s being compared to the OJ murders for a reason.
it’s also a proxy for class/gender war. she’s a rich white woman, do you think if she was any other demographic she’d be able to get away with this, let alone have other white women fan girling super hard for her?
some folks legit seem to think no rich person should ever be held accountable for their crimes, especially if they are female.
plus the entire thing is insane and heinous and evokes intense emotions in pretty much everyone who hears about it.
tbh 9/10 cases in the Witcher III are just people trying to hide domestic murder behind folklore shit.
Unrelated, your name made me chuckle, thanks for the smile.
To the point, I’ve noticed that too, it’s so overwhelmingly obvious that none of the support she’s getting is authentic, it’s clear people are using this for their or culture war nonsense and it’s concerning as the precedent this case could set can have some serious consequences.
It feels like a lot of people aren’t taking this seriously, the arguments/discussions people are trying to make around this can snowball into something disastrous.
I live in the exact same scenario and have had at least two heated arguments with my wife about it. I guess it’s a mix of loss of trust in official sources, (quite reasonable) misandry, love for the drama… And in all of this, I still believe Clancy should get the insanity plea. There was a case in the country where I live that happened about twenty years ago, and the poor woman who ended up in jail is still used as the butt of the joke of memes about hating kids.
I honestly don’t get how so any people feel they have a leg in this race.
Personally haven’t been on any of the major platforms for years, but as an outsider looking in, I blame social media. It openly encourages this kind of mob behavior and amplifes the most insane voices with reckless abandon.
Absolutely agree, I got off all social media except Reddit and then Lemmy when I realized how it was being used and the enshittification of course.
I got her on reddit too years ago and that was better, but then the apipocalypse got us both off the platform and I went to Lemmy and she went to Insta. :/
She’s gotten noticably more anti-men since too, I get it men fucking suck but she’s like straight up getting to a misandric level.
Not to mention buying more beauty products from watching makeup tutorials and shit so frequently.
Sure, if you can make the case that you were not in your right mind when you committed a crime and therefore unable to grasp what you were doing (criminal responsibility or Schuldunfähigkeit in German), you cannot be punished. If the court also finds that you were only temporarily in a condition that made you commit the crime but will most likely not do anything like it again and are not a danger to others? You may go neither to prison nor to a mental institution.
Thanks, that certainly explains the first half of the post, but what’s going on in the second half? Are there lots of people blaming the husband?
There is a tiktok movement that believes that despite all evidence and witness statements, phone logs, and surveillance footage that somehow the husband is responsible.
This is supported by vibes, astrology and folk magic, it’s very strange. The court case isn’t even about who’s responsible for the murder, it’s about if the Defense has a valid insanity plea to keep her from jail or getting institutionalized.
Thanks for the context. Sounds dumb as hell … wonder how much of that is manufactured by rightwingers.
A successful insanity plea keeps you from getting institutionalized?
It’s not dumb it’s real.
I dated a lawyer who believed in astrology and folk magic. A lot of people believe in this shit because they are sad people and it gives meaning and magic to their life… basically Disney adult type shit.
Why would “dumb” mean “not real”? You just said that real people are dumb as hell.
It’s a weird situation, most insanity pleas are fought with the defense having to prove they were mentally unwell and incapable of being willingly responsible for their actions but because of the lead up to the crime, it’s being handled in reverse.
She killed those kids but doesn’t want to go to jail and pleads not guilty by insanity so she wants to be institutionalized. The plaintiff argues she wasn’t insane and was in control of her actions due to how functional she was till the last minute before the crime would have been possible as she orchestrated the conditions to allow her to commit the murders. It’s an interesting case that’s getting muddled by the publics personnel beliefs and is also being co-opted for political purposes by right-wingers as proof the 19th amendment was a mistake.
It’s insane to see how we even got to this point but it’s being compared to the OJ murders for a reason.
it’s also a proxy for class/gender war. she’s a rich white woman, do you think if she was any other demographic she’d be able to get away with this, let alone have other white women fan girling super hard for her?
some folks legit seem to think no rich person should ever be held accountable for their crimes, especially if they are female.
plus the entire thing is insane and heinous and evokes intense emotions in pretty much everyone who hears about it.
Unrelated, your name made me chuckle, thanks for the smile.
To the point, I’ve noticed that too, it’s so overwhelmingly obvious that none of the support she’s getting is authentic, it’s clear people are using this for their or culture war nonsense and it’s concerning as the precedent this case could set can have some serious consequences.
It feels like a lot of people aren’t taking this seriously, the arguments/discussions people are trying to make around this can snowball into something disastrous.
My wife started getting into it from Instagram crap and was talking about how it’s possible if not likely the husband actually did it.
I took 5 minutes to find she’s not even saying she didn’t do it and that still doesn’t matter to her.
I do not fucking get it, and was accused of being misogynistic for not thinking it was possible the husband did it.
I can’t even with social media
I live in the exact same scenario and have had at least two heated arguments with my wife about it. I guess it’s a mix of loss of trust in official sources, (quite reasonable) misandry, love for the drama… And in all of this, I still believe Clancy should get the insanity plea. There was a case in the country where I live that happened about twenty years ago, and the poor woman who ended up in jail is still used as the butt of the joke of memes about hating kids.
Yeah there’s no doubt the medical system failed her spectacularly and she should get the insanity plea IMO.
But then social media makes it a woman vs man thing instead of focusing on how it exemplifies how fucking horrible our medical system is.
Gets my conspiracy brain going a little on that one lol.
I honestly don’t get how so any people feel they have a leg in this race.
Personally haven’t been on any of the major platforms for years, but as an outsider looking in, I blame social media. It openly encourages this kind of mob behavior and amplifes the most insane voices with reckless abandon.
Absolutely agree, I got off all social media except Reddit and then Lemmy when I realized how it was being used and the enshittification of course.
I got her on reddit too years ago and that was better, but then the apipocalypse got us both off the platform and I went to Lemmy and she went to Insta. :/
She’s gotten noticably more anti-men since too, I get it men fucking suck but she’s like straight up getting to a misandric level.
Not to mention buying more beauty products from watching makeup tutorials and shit so frequently.
Idk how to show her its warping her worldview
Sure, if you can make the case that you were not in your right mind when you committed a crime and therefore unable to grasp what you were doing (criminal responsibility or Schuldunfähigkeit in German), you cannot be punished. If the court also finds that you were only temporarily in a condition that made you commit the crime but will most likely not do anything like it again and are not a danger to others? You may go neither to prison nor to a mental institution.
That’s a very interesting way of handling the situation. Honestly think that a more appropriate way of handling/framing the case.