Reminder that the official story of how kirk got killed is lies, on a dozen different counts, and that he was killed by Israel connected ruling class interests because he refused Israel’s chosen board members and their vision for the org, for his own picks for board members and vision for the org.
The official story is laughably bad, I wouldn’t know where to start at this point, at 30.06 at that range would’ve turned the back of his neck into hamburger for one thing, even if it was a special round, (it was frangible.) They found a .223 shell on a building behind that building that was higher, and that range and caliber does fit the wound.
The pictures they posted of the suspect are mostly compressed images of people that look nothing like the 150 pound suspect, one of which was a probably 6 foot 3 230 pound man. Prosecutors aren’t even trying.
The video they released, didn’t show a rifle in the suspects hands, hiding it in the pants is laughable, I could go on and on here.
But because some on the right are questioning it, half of of the left believes the prosecution.
The theory that it’s connected to Israel sounds tenuous at best. It sounds anti-semitic at worst. Kirk was spreading American Evangelicalism which is a direct boon to Israel because the biggest non-jewish Zionists are evangelical.
I’ve seen the trope way too many times, where the shadowy Jews are killing the elites and are obviously responsible for everything from vaccines and autism to killing JFK to leaking war plans in the Dryfus affair. The further you get away from the nation state of Israel, the less likely I am to believe that Israel is to blame. We’ll probably figure out why he was killed in the end. Or maybe not
In this particular event i don’t believe he was murdered by Israel but there is verifiable false flags by israel that’s why many people fall into conspiracy theories. Even lies against israel is not antisemetic because israel do not represent jews in fact murdered many jews in history.
Even that can be a bit blurry. When it comes to criticizing Israel, the guidance I have is to be specific. There’s a big difference between saying that Israel is creating an apartheid state in the West Bank, vs Isreal controls the US government. And one has to be a little more on their facts, because anti-semites will use legitimate criticism of the state of Israel to mask their antisemitism. The poster who started this comment thread is much more so the ladder especially by doubling down with the crypto red-pill bs.
I’m going to refer to the GOAT, Philosophy Tube and her video on anti-Semitism
There’s a big difference between saying that Israel is creating an apartheid state in the West Bank, vs Isreal controls the US government.
I think most people use influence and control interchangeably. Israel influence on western countries to make them silent against genocide and settler colonialism is a fact
anti-semites will use legitimate criticism of the state of Israel to mask their antisemitism
Islamophobic people will use legitimate opposition of ISIS to portray all Muslims are bloodthirsty. The point is yes everything could be weaponed by bigots . There are antisemitic people who will lie about Israel but it doesn’t mean every person even lying about Israel is antisemitic because Israel do not represent all jews .
The exact same dynamic applies to Saudi Arabia, where valid opposition to authoritarian governance is sometimes pushed to extremes, resulting in manufactured falsehoods and deliberate exaggerations
This is bullshit and not how pro-Israel influence in US politics works. Kirk was broadly accepted by the republican mainstream and didn’t stray too far from the party line. In fact he was for a while harrassed by Groypers in part because he refused to adopt bald-faced anti-semitism into his rethoric. This theory might well have originated in those circles.
Funny, Israel said the same thing about you being an anti salmon. Funny how that works.
But how the fuck would you know anything about how the ruling class works if you don’t understand you can’t accept salacious allegations at face value?
do you have a reputable source for a .223 shell being found?
The video they released, didn’t show a rifle in the suspects hands, hiding it in the pants is laughable
by the time the shooter has reached the area seen in the surveillance footage, he had already ditched the rifle, which was later found abandoned by law enforcement; no one is claiming that he is hiding it in his pants in that footage
I do have a source for the .223, I can send it to you in a few hours I have to find it from another source.
It was found by a cop and fbi that were searching the area and they described the bullet as having been ejected from a police officer’s weapon, and didn’t include it in evidence and all sorts of such things.
The thing you should ask yourself first, is if that wound was made by a 30.06 at that distance, and the answer is no. Did the shooter sneak a rifle onto the roof, assemble it, creep to the edge, take the shot without any of that visible in the grainy footage of the supposed shooter, then disassemble the rifle, all within 1 minute, run down, get away, reassemble the rifle in a chicken coop, then leave it there.
But it gets weirder, the Sherrif sent bomb/gun dog teams through that chicken coop, dog’s didn’t hit anything, an FBI shows up and finds it in th first minute.
There is a lot more I will send you some stuff after I get back from the store.
You are also introducing a lot of hypotheticals that are clearly nonsensical as a gotcha to make the official version of the events look ridiculous, but they are simply not what the official version claims. Like I said, no one is claiming that the shooter was concealing the rifle in the surveillance shot that shows them running away, and no one is claiming that they assembled or disassembled any rifles throughout their presence at the crime scene.
Before trying to debunk something, please get your story straight as to what you’re actually debunking, and do not promise evidence before you have a working link to the source that you can share. There is no practical difference between claiming evidence exists and you just need to get back from your 21-hour trip to the store and outright fabricating it.
Reminder that the official story of how kirk got killed is lies, on a dozen different counts, and that he was killed by Israel connected ruling class interests because he refused Israel’s chosen board members and their vision for the org, for his own picks for board members and vision for the org.
The official story is laughably bad, I wouldn’t know where to start at this point, at 30.06 at that range would’ve turned the back of his neck into hamburger for one thing, even if it was a special round, (it was frangible.) They found a .223 shell on a building behind that building that was higher, and that range and caliber does fit the wound.
The pictures they posted of the suspect are mostly compressed images of people that look nothing like the 150 pound suspect, one of which was a probably 6 foot 3 230 pound man. Prosecutors aren’t even trying.
The video they released, didn’t show a rifle in the suspects hands, hiding it in the pants is laughable, I could go on and on here.
But because some on the right are questioning it, half of of the left believes the prosecution.
The theory that it’s connected to Israel sounds tenuous at best. It sounds anti-semitic at worst. Kirk was spreading American Evangelicalism which is a direct boon to Israel because the biggest non-jewish Zionists are evangelical.
I’ve seen the trope way too many times, where the shadowy Jews are killing the elites and are obviously responsible for everything from vaccines and autism to killing JFK to leaking war plans in the Dryfus affair. The further you get away from the nation state of Israel, the less likely I am to believe that Israel is to blame. We’ll probably figure out why he was killed in the end. Or maybe not
In this particular event i don’t believe he was murdered by Israel but there is verifiable false flags by israel that’s why many people fall into conspiracy theories. Even lies against israel is not antisemetic because israel do not represent jews in fact murdered many jews in history.
Even that can be a bit blurry. When it comes to criticizing Israel, the guidance I have is to be specific. There’s a big difference between saying that Israel is creating an apartheid state in the West Bank, vs Isreal controls the US government. And one has to be a little more on their facts, because anti-semites will use legitimate criticism of the state of Israel to mask their antisemitism. The poster who started this comment thread is much more so the ladder especially by doubling down with the crypto red-pill bs.
I’m going to refer to the GOAT, Philosophy Tube and her video on anti-Semitism
I think most people use influence and control interchangeably. Israel influence on western countries to make them silent against genocide and settler colonialism is a fact
Islamophobic people will use legitimate opposition of ISIS to portray all Muslims are bloodthirsty. The point is yes everything could be weaponed by bigots . There are antisemitic people who will lie about Israel but it doesn’t mean every person even lying about Israel is antisemitic because Israel do not represent all jews .
The exact same dynamic applies to Saudi Arabia, where valid opposition to authoritarian governance is sometimes pushed to extremes, resulting in manufactured falsehoods and deliberate exaggerations
Tenuous or no, it’s true. Shit is a lot worse than you guys think, I’ve been trying to tell you. Wake the fuck up.
Yeah, you saw, through the palantir stone, thinking you are strong enough to defy sauron. You aren’t, none of us, not even I entirely.
Cut it with the crypto Nazi bullshit. You’re talking out of your ass
Israel and factions of their US and Euro allies are the nazis, and we all know it.
Which does question your character. Are you a fucking tool of them? Or just a (probably less than,) half wit?
This is bullshit and not how pro-Israel influence in US politics works. Kirk was broadly accepted by the republican mainstream and didn’t stray too far from the party line. In fact he was for a while harrassed by Groypers in part because he refused to adopt bald-faced anti-semitism into his rethoric. This theory might well have originated in those circles.
Funny, Israel said the same thing about you being an anti salmon. Funny how that works.
But how the fuck would you know anything about how the ruling class works if you don’t understand you can’t accept salacious allegations at face value?
Doesn’t make you very credible.
do you have a reputable source for a .223 shell being found?
by the time the shooter has reached the area seen in the surveillance footage, he had already ditched the rifle, which was later found abandoned by law enforcement; no one is claiming that he is hiding it in his pants in that footage
I do have a source for the .223, I can send it to you in a few hours I have to find it from another source.
It was found by a cop and fbi that were searching the area and they described the bullet as having been ejected from a police officer’s weapon, and didn’t include it in evidence and all sorts of such things.
The thing you should ask yourself first, is if that wound was made by a 30.06 at that distance, and the answer is no. Did the shooter sneak a rifle onto the roof, assemble it, creep to the edge, take the shot without any of that visible in the grainy footage of the supposed shooter, then disassemble the rifle, all within 1 minute, run down, get away, reassemble the rifle in a chicken coop, then leave it there.
But it gets weirder, the Sherrif sent bomb/gun dog teams through that chicken coop, dog’s didn’t hit anything, an FBI shows up and finds it in th first minute.
There is a lot more I will send you some stuff after I get back from the store.
There is more here than you can waive a stick at.
That is a lot of promises and not a single link.
You are also introducing a lot of hypotheticals that are clearly nonsensical as a gotcha to make the official version of the events look ridiculous, but they are simply not what the official version claims. Like I said, no one is claiming that the shooter was concealing the rifle in the surveillance shot that shows them running away, and no one is claiming that they assembled or disassembled any rifles throughout their presence at the crime scene.
Before trying to debunk something, please get your story straight as to what you’re actually debunking, and do not promise evidence before you have a working link to the source that you can share. There is no practical difference between claiming evidence exists and you just need to get back from your 21-hour trip to the store and outright fabricating it.