• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    It wont be a real AI, but itll be just enough to kill off a lot of the software industry.

      • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5 hours ago

        A true Turing Machine, obviously

        One that when given input will give the correct output, every time, without fault or stalling, in a timeframe that is quick

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          3 hours ago

          A Turing machine has nothing to do with AI. Pretty much any computer today can emulate one, the only thing lacking is infinite memory.

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            3 hours ago

            Isn’t there a difference between Turing Complete and Turing Machine?

            I thought many machine can be Turing Complete (when given infinite resources, can give any required output), but a Turing Machine is one that is complete?

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        11 hours ago

        Real ai to me would mean true agency. And an entity which has its own goals and relationship to its world.

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          7 hours ago

          Yeah. I wonder if it might be difficult to identify something that reaches that point? I suppose genuine creativity might be an indication of intelligence? Or a desire to reprogram itself? I dunno, I’ve recently read Peter Watts blindsight and it kind of made me reconsider the relationship between consciousness and intelligence.

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            7 hours ago

            If someone truly believes LLMs are sentient, then they must under no circumstances prompt them even once; that would be murder.

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                An LLM is a stateless stochastic function ran over your prompt (plus whatever system prompt) as input.

                If you genuinely believe that the LLM is conscious, that means every time the function stops running (i.e. stops producing output tokens), the consciousness ends.

                This is far closer to death than to, say, sleep, because prompting again doesn’t “wake” the LLM, it just runs the function again, from the top; as if a digital twin was given a transcript of the previous conversation and asked to take it from here.

                (Obviously, “murder” was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, and this doesn’t even remotely meet any legal definition of murder. I was mostly poking fun at people who think LLMs are alive, without thinking through the implications. Personally, I think the idea that LLMs are alive/conscious/sentient is very often linked to not understanding that LLMs are not, in fact, a constantly-running ghost in the shell, thinking about and remembering things in the background.)