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TW: Sexual Assault

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7 Panel Comic

Panel 1: White text on blood red background “TW: Sexual Assault”

Panel 2: A guy holds down a semi-conscious naked girl. Her eyes are closed and tear stained. Her mouth in an expression of pain. Around her are more reaching hands.

Jane Doe: This hurts….there’s too many people here…

I can’t breathe…

Panel 3: Beside the girl lays an empty liquor bottle and an empty pill bottle. Hands press down on her head and chest.

Jane Doe: I’ve got the spins

What’s happening

Who’s touching me?

I don’t want to do this anymore

Panel 4: A group of naked men laugh as they enjoy themselves

Jane Doe: I’m scared…

… if I say stop…

…will they get mad?

I can’t talk anyway…

Panel 5: Blood runs between her thighs. Her legs are bruised.

Jane Doe: Ow! Stop grabbing me!

I think I’m bleeding…

…I want to go home…

Just….gonna….shut….down….

Panel 6: The girl wraps her arms around her legs and closes her eyes as she listens to the barrage of insults, vitriol and victim blaming after coming out with what was done to her.

You can’t cry ‘rape’ whenever you regret sleeping with someone!!

Bitch

Maybe don’t hang out with guys!

Your fault for getting drunk!

Whore

You said yes at first! You can’t take it back!

Why didn’t you push them off?!

Slut

She just wants money!

Stop trying to ruin their lives!!

Attention seeker

Panel 7: “Why are they mad at me?”

  • A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialEnglish
    34·
    1 day ago

    Victim blaming. I have seen it happening.

    SA warning

    It was “but they were both on drugs” and “but they were in a relationship”.
    Often from women.

    Then there’s the cherrypicking; one allegation was rape, the other that the guy was grooming her because he was much older than her. People got hung up on the age difference as something that shouldn’t be an issue, and ignored the much bigger issue: “what, now I can’t try to pick up young women anymore? You’re creating an athmosphere of fear and prosecution!” - No dipshit, you just can’t rape them.
    The same applies to the person who stands with the victim (that was me): “but I’ve seen you flirting with younger women too! Don’t be so sanctimonious!”

    Frankly, just trying to support her was a horrible experience. Can’t imagine how it must have felt for her. So brave to come forward.
    But I wouldn’t miss this experience for the world.
    I hope you’re doing OK.

    • erin@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      28·
      1 day ago

      Even years later, when I tell my story I get victim blaming comments, even from people I otherwise trusted. I no longer bring it up outside of with other women I feel safe with.

      CW: SA

      “You can’t just take back your consent.”

      I didn’t. I said stop, they didn’t, because finishing was more important than my comfort. Consent can be retracted at any time. Stop means stop, and no means no.

      “Did you even defend yourself?”

      He was bigger, stronger, and had already ignored my “stop” and my “no.” I was scared and I shut down.

      The person who assaulted me never faced any consequences. I still freeze up during intimacy. I hope Jane Doe gets justice and closure.

      • A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        14 hours ago

        Thanks for sharing.

        Re your first quote:

        I wish (these) men would talk about their sexuality a bit more openly. The need for relief. The still widespread tabooing of masturbation, esp. when a woman is present. I believe it would help them understand that what they’re doing is wrong - while relief is still possible.

      • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
        6·
        1 day ago

        If I go out to eat, I can take back my consent at any time. I don’t see a difference here.

        “This [food] sucks, I’m out.”

        Shit that this happened to you. I hope you’re better.

        • velma@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          11 hours ago

          The issue with the Cornell case is that anything she said no to was respected (at least from the documents I have seen)

          Why did she keep having to say ‘no’ over and over again then?

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
              1·
              8 hours ago

              It’s clear you have a fuzzy understanding of consent, I don’t need lessons from someone who wouldn’t stop sex when a partner says they want to stop.

              • freely1333@reddthat.comEnglish
                1·
                8 hours ago

                Taking words out of context to feign moral outrage when you don’t have any logical paths left 🥱

                • velma@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  8 hours ago

                  Good thing nothing is really hidden on Lemmy and everyone can see your comment that prioritizes a man’s orgasm over his partner wanting sex to stop.

                  • freely1333@reddthat.comEnglish
                    1·
                    8 hours ago

                    Its a hypothetical about consent in a discussion on consent. You could gender flip it and it would still be consent.

        • velma@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          11 hours ago

          If you had said “no stop I’m not feeling it” and he said “ugh I’m close can I finish?” and you said “okay finish quick” then your consent would have been back being given.

          This is coercion. You don’t get to push back on someone saying “stop”. That’s fucked up.

        • velma@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          10 hours ago

          If you had said “no stop I’m not feeling it” and he said “ugh I’m close can I finish?”

          I can’t stop re-reading this, jesus fucking christ.

          A woman says “No stop” and you don’t immediately fucking stop? What the fuck?

          What the fuck?

        • Nath@aussie.zone
          6·
          15 hours ago

          Wait. You genuinely believe there are women somewhere who would consent to a conga line of unknown guys just having their way with them while passed out?

          That is absolutely not a thing.

          • freely1333@reddthat.comEnglish
            3·
            15 hours ago

            She wasn’t passed out? They were all doing ketamine off each other? She was standing around the room showing off her muscles? Do I believe there are women who consent to group sex? Absolutely.

            At least some people here will stand on the facts and still say it was rape for whatever reason but when you have to make things up it kind of shows that you don’t have much faith in what you’re arguing for.