• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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      Op thinks she’s evil because she wouldn’t have let Roe v Wade get overturned, bombed a girl’s school in Iran, established a gestapo to detain anyone looking Latino, and wipe Black history from all public parks and museums.

      Instead it would have been the same old corporatism with increased social services like Nordic Countries.

      Accelerationists are the worst.

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        Perhaps op is capable of looking past their nose?

        Maybe there are worse things than overturning Roe v Wade in USA. Maybe billions of people negatively affected by the Evil Empire matter more than a handful affected by Roe v Wade? Or ICE gestapo shooting USians.

        Perhaps OP knows about all the schools, weddings, funerals and innocent families bombed by Hotsauce Hillary. The death, destruction and misery she unleashed on millions in West Asia and North Africa.

        Maybe there’s more to humanity than USA and OP is a realist, not an accelerationist like Fuentes and other white supremacists like him?!

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          Why do you think Trump’s presidency will reduce the negative effects of the US on the rest of the world when so far (75% of the way through) it has only made things far worse for everyone else?

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            Compared to billions of women across the globe, yes. A handful.

            Like it or not, USians are not the main character nor the only ones that matter.

            The women that Hillary’s policies turned into sex-slaves are suffering far more than anyone ever will due to roe v wade getting overturned. It sucks, but they can still travel elsewhere. Those slave women, turned into slaves because of Hillary and Barack, can’t.

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                As if Hillary didn’t? All those people sold into slavery due to Hillary’s policies clearly don’t bother you one bit.

                As if you genuinely care about their right to self determination.

                Do you carry the White Man’s Burden, champ? Gonna save everyone’s soul and civilize them all?

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          Perhaps OP knows about all the schools, weddings, funerals and innocent families bombed by Hotsauce Hillary.

          Trump bombed more than Obama. https://theconversation.com/under-the-trump-administration-us-airstrikes-are-killing-more-civilians-85154 https://www.wral.com/news/state/warren-trump-military-strike-countries-fact-check-april-10/

          Trump has already killed over 750k children by cutting off all foreign medical and food aid to Africa.

          Obama didn’t and Hillary wouldn’t have cut off aid to Africa.

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            You’re overlooking the part where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.

            You’re missing the part where Mrs Cackles would’ve kept the global majority under the boot of white supremacists.

            You might think West has the mandate from YHWH or Jeebus to dictate terms to the whole world. I don’t.

            Obama and Hillary had the option to not play stupid games such as funding ISIS and arming them to topple Asad. They had the option to not turn Libya into hell on earth. Was their country under Gadaffi perfect? Of course not - but it was still better than what France and USA turned it into.

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              You might think West has the mandate from YHWH or Jeebus to dictate terms to the whole world. I don’t.

              Pro tip for discussions, inaccurate jabs like this are how you get rightfully labeled as a bad faith actor and are a sign you are trying to mentally position your opponent as dismissable rather than actually argue against their points. Anyways:

              You’re overlooking the part where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.

              How have Trump’s actions led to the collapse of the “evil empire”? Or how will they? What mechanism will cause this collapse, what does “collapse” mean to you, and why do you expect the end result to be an improvement?

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              where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.

              Accelerationism is evil. You don’t care about the millions that will die for the remote possibility that things could get better.

              Mrs Cackles would’ve kept the global majority under the boot of white supremacists.

              Letting hundreds of thousands of African children die is worse.

              They had the option to not turn Libya into hell on earth.

              Fewer murders than Trump.

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              Just out of curiosity, what do you think happens when the US empire collapses into warlords? Because the nukes aren’t just gonna disappear.

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                Are they the only ones with those weapons?

                Is the entire world just supposed to bend over and keep getting shafted by white supremacists because USA got nukes?

                The collapse has started. There’s no turning back at this point, thankfully. It’s up to them to decide if they want to play nice with the rest of the world or keep living in their bubble.

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                  Do you think you’ll have better luck with a young, charismatic colonel who has managed to earn the absolute loyalty of his men through sheer competence without ever publicly stating a political position?

                  Because if you do, I have a number of Latin American paradises to sell you. (Those colonels go by el presidente now)

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                    Who do you think kept overthrowing elected governments to install dictators in so many countries around the world?

                    Especially in Latin America?

                    Who do you think is responsible for making sure Haiti or Cuba can’t succeed?

                    Do you think USians ever tired of carrying all that White Man’s Burden? It must be exhausting having to teach billions of people how to be “civilized”, no? Poor USians… my heart goes out to em!

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      She’s competent and evil. Making her brand of white supremacist evil more effective.

      Donald is dumb af and incompetent. Making his brand of white supremacist evil less effective on a global scale.

      She would’ve kept the empire going strong for quite some time. Donald destroyed it from within. Donald is YHWH’s gift to the global majority.

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          There’s more to this world than USA or Western hegemony. Majority of the humans aren’t USians.

          I already said that people who view everything through a western lens will disagree. Which is fine. What matters is Donroe Donald is dumb enough to sabotage the empire from within. Which is a good thing in the long run.

          It sucks for USians, sure. But when he’s busy gunning his own people down, he has less resources to keep the boot on the necks of the global majority.

          It sucks being on the wrong track in The Trolley Problem. YHWH works in mysterious ways…

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            YHWH works in mysterious ways

            Your argument doesn’t make much sense but as far as I can tell you’re of the opinion that god let the US become a nasty, evil superpower that made everyone outside of the first world sphere suffer tremendously but it’s OK now because the same same god stopped Clinton from winning so that Trump could take power and destroy the structures of oppression that that very same god put there in the first place.

            Is that accurate?

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        You have no idea how much worse it can get without revolution. The UK had masses of poor dying in the streets without any revolution.

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            Yes. And no revolution. No accountability. The King still has a crown and a large castle with staff. The Prime Ministers rotate through Downing Street.

            The US can and will do far worse with no accountability. Yet you choose Hitler over Churchill. (The comparison of two leaders who both murdered millions is intentional.)

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              It’s quite possible to hate both equally. Churchill was no better than his German/Austrian cousin.

              USA has been doing horrible things without accountability this entire time. They won’t be able to in the future as they lose their sole superpower pedestal.