Apparently in the past day, they’ve removed all the logos from the Microgrants projects and clarified that the grants are unsolicited

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    This is all in reference to this article.

    FUTO is an organization that talks a lot of rhetoric about being some bastion of consumer rights in tech, but they’re doing a lot of shitty, shady, and downright evil things. Among them, FUTO has been in the practice of making small grants to FOSS projects (like ffmpeg and musl) and then plastering the FOSS project’s name and logo all over the FUTO site in a way that makes it seem as if FUTO is endorsed by said FOSS projects when that’s not the case at all.

    (All this after doing everything in their power with their rhetoric to try to discredit and degrade the entire FOSS community. They wrote an “apology”, but even in the apology, they express their “disdain for OSI approved licenses”. Mind you, none of FUTO’s projects are Open Source most of their projects are proprietary.)

    After that article came out just a couple of days ago, apparently they redid their site, I’d have to guess in an effort to address the concern that the way FUTO presented their grant program before implied endorsement by a lot of FOSS projects that didn’t endorse them in any way. I don’t think they’ve done enough, and there are tons of other reasons to think FUTO is evil assholes using consumer rights rhetoric to manipulate people in service to its (fully for-profit) bottom line.

    Other concerns in the article include FUTO’s connection to explicit/proud fascists and using their platform to (even coercing Louis Rossmann into) spread fascist propaganda.

    And I’ve got plenty more to say about how evil FUTO is.

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      I’ve clicked through the links and the most ‘evil’ thing they did seems to be using a non-mainstream open source licence? Evil is getting contracted by Israel. Prohibiting other companies from profiting off your work isn’t evil.

      Edit: And they hosted an interview with Curtis Yarvin. That’s bad, but still doesn’t warrant calling them evil.

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        Honestly getting tired of the purity tests. The alternatives are horrific. Google. Apple. Meta. So please find me the FOSS project that is perfectly free of sin which I’m allowed to support.

        At this point it begins to feel as though this DDV is only here to write takedown pieces on projects not deemed pure enough for the cause.

        FUTO hosted an interview once with a POS guy. Oh, the horror. Please help me understand what that has to do with the existence of a keyboard that isn’t spyware. Yeah no. I’ll keep supporting the working alternatives, you have fun using absolutely nothing because “What if one of the devs wasn’t a good person??!”

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          I absolutely agree with your statement. Hell, even the GNU project (RMS mostly) had their own scandal a while ago, so if you really insist on being pedantic about this matter feel free on removing practically every piece of open source software from your systems.

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          I don’t get you people. The founder of FUTO literally platforming a fascist is beyond just purity test level of bad.

          I can call Eron out for being a supporter of fascists, while using FUTO keyboard because it doesn’t spy on me, that’s perfectly fine. I don’t get why using their keyboard means you have to defend the horrible position held by the people behind it. Sounds like cognitive dissonance.

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      They weren’t even grants. They just donated money and said “look we’re sponsoring them!”, implying a relationship. As mentioned in that article, musl and ffmpeg (and probably everyone) didn’t even know FUTO was doing this.

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      Immich it licensed under AGPL 3 and the code is open - isn’t that FOSS?

      I know some of their apps are licensed under a semi-open license of their own creation and that’s been touchy to say the least. But is it true to say that none of their apps are FOSS?

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        Ah. My mistake. I’ll edit my comment.

        Edit: According to another comment in this post, FUTO “took over” Immich. Seems like maybe Immich was AGPLv3 before FUTO got hold of it. Still qualifies as “one of FUTO’s projects”, and your point is still well made, but it does still add a bit of context, and honestly I have to wonder whether future versions of Immich will remain FOSS.

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          They actually reliscenced from mit (or some permissive liscence) to AGPLv3 right before getting “taken over” by FUTO (futo now pays the immich devs to work full time on the project)

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          I’ll be honest- never even heard of futo outside the context of immich (and I don’t even run it.) Interesting to hear they have anything besides that.

    • linkinkampf19 🖤🩶🤍💜🇺🇦@lemmy.world
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      Thanks for posting this. Just uninstalled Futo keyboard and its neighboring speech to text app. Gotta hunt around for a replacement on both, tho I’ve been using Heliboard, which is okay. Still really bad at swipe predictions.

        • Hah! That’s why I said I was using Heliboard :P As noted, not the greatest text prediction. e.g. I’ll type “in” specifically starting over the I, and it still types “on”, and it also doesn’t like shorthand wording, like “gonna” which every time gets replaced with “Gibbs”

          Still better than the Google keyboard with its billion all-seeing eyes on you.

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            🤦‍♂️ Sometimes I wonder who those people are who immediately jump to conclusions because they can’t be bothered to read a simple paragraph of text. Me. The answer is - it’s me!

            Hopefully something good still came out of it. Maybe as someone else recommended adding your frequently used words to your dictionary will help with word sugggestions.

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            Can’t you just put the shorthand words you want in a personal dictionary? That worked for me. Able to type words not in the default dictionary without autocorrecting.

            • I suppose I could have, but I’m still somewhat babystepping in Heliboard. I think if I give it a bit more time, it’ll click better. I guess I was just so used to the seemingly solid prediction options for Google Keyboard way back. But having less of my info passing over to them, the better.

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        The voice recognition is honestly the best I’ve ever used. It’ll be a shame to give it up.

        If I decide to switch keyboards, I’m certain I would go back to HeliBoard.

        There’s been a real explosion of open source voice recognition over the past few months, and I haven’t tested a lot. Whisper+ looks like a promising one. Before using Futo, I used Sayboard, which I was pretty happy with.

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          Careful, I heard one of the Heliboard devs kicked a puppy once. How dare you support such Evil software?!

          /s because sadly that’s needed

        • I was really loving Futo keyboard, but when companies are tied to any atrocities, or in this case, plain general evil, it’s really tough to stick with. I jumped very briefly over to Sayboard before your post (saw it on F-Droid), but I’m hoping Whisper+ works better, as I think I’ll simultaneously be using it for my upcoming HA voice assistant project.

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          Their voice recognition is just OpenAI Whisper. Transcribro uses the exact same thing. It’s just not built into a handy key on the keyboard.