• Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    I get it. I hate a lot of things about Windows, but switching to Linux would prevent me from playing some games that I would want to play, and that trade-off is not worth it to me.

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      18 hours ago

      What games? The vast majority work fine.

      The companies that don’t let you choose your platform don’t respect you. They won’t support Linux until they’re forced to. As long as you let them bully you they’ll continue to not support user freedom. There are far too many games to play that I can’t play them all, so I don’t really care that a tiny handful of games aren’t playable. They aren’t worth playing until they learn to respect customers.

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        15 hours ago

        I almost always am playing games with friends, so it depends on what they want to play as well. We generally rotate through different games at different times, and the choice depends on what we can find that everyone would enjoy. It can already be hard to do that sometimes, so removing more options could make it worse.

        Battlefield 6 is one of the ones we have been playing recently, so that one would require Windows (at least as a dual boot option). It’s also hard to know what games might be the group preference in the future.

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          15 hours ago

          Yeah, I have a group of three who I have been playing with for years. It really hasn’t been an issue for us though. We’ve been doing The Finals for a while now, and we did Hunt for a while before that. We’ve hopped between several different games, and it’s not a problem. We just aren’t really drawn towards EA or Riot though, which are the only western games that don’t work, for the most part.

          I’ve had enough Battlefield in my past that I don’t care for it anymore. I also play Squad, so that easily takes its place. Basically, the companies with executives forcing kernel level anti-cheat on them aren’t allowed to make interesting games anyway, so it doesn’t bother me.

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              12 hours ago

              If you like it, I’d like to recommend Squad. It’s more based in reality (though not “realistic”). It’s much slower. You can’t sprint around and kill people. It’s also focused on team play. It’s the spawn of the Project Reality mod from Battlefield 2, so it’s got the same DNA.

              They frequently have free weekends. That’s the worst time to play, as free players kill a lot of the team play. For the chance to try for free though, it’s good. Just know it’s the worst experience you’ll have while playing. It only goes up from there.

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      I finally booted windows because Expedition 33’s performance in Linux was bad, only to realize it was the sane on windows.

      Actually there’s a game, the Alters, that crashed on my desktop Linux (works on deck) and had to play in windows. There was some workaround somewhere, but didn’t try.

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      2 days ago

      You can consider dual boot? I use Windows to play games only and use Linux for other things that need the computer

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        18 hours ago

        The vast majority of games work fine on Linux. Try not switching sometime. You don’t even need to reinstall them. Linux can read your Windows partition fine, do you just need to point whatever launcher to the same spot.

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        I expect that there would be some switching cost every time I switch OS (such as the time to reboot and/or the mental adjustment to the interface) and gaming is the majority of what I do on my PC.

        So, I don’t think it would be worth it if I used Windows for all gaming still. But I would maybe consider using Linux for everything except for specifically games that require Windows.

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          But I would maybe consider using Linux for everything except for specifically games that require Windows.

          That’s the way. I started this way too, and as I got more comfortable well, my Windows partition hasn’t been booted for a couple years now because OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has run all my games beautifully.

          Vermintide II even stopped crashing the entire system when I used Linux instead of Windows! On Nvidia BTW.

          Even though sometimes it feels like I might be missing out on playing some of the newest hypey-est multiplayer games, I also remind myself that I don’t want something on my computer like the new Battlefield’s or Riot Games’ incredibly creepy and invasive anticheat, no matter the OS!

          … Plus, I got like a thousand games to enjoy anyway. Maybe you’ll feel the same, idk?

          I will say though, Linux starts to just feel fun to compute on. It feels like a machine that’s yours instead of some licensed appliance. I missed that feeling from the really old Windows days when it was fun.

          Do a little exploring, but picking a distro with KDE should feel at home really quick coming from Windows. :)

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            Well, my choice of game is influenced a lot by what my friends want to play as well, and we tend to cycle through various games at different times. So I’d want to have the ability to play whatever they want to play. We have been playing Battlefield 6 a fair amount recently, so that one would require Windows.

            Helldivers 2 works on Linux but we’ve basically retired that for now because of some scummy behavior by the devs. I have hopes that it will come back, but it has a bad taste for now.

            Probably most of the other games we play would work (since most of them don’t have over the top anticheat). I haven’t checked all of them, though. It’s hard to know how often I would run across one that doesn’t work.

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              18 hours ago

              I don’t know what the Helldivers devs did, but you don’t think it’s scummy that BF6 requires malware, like Windows and kerbel level anti-cheat?

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                17 hours ago

                Regardless of how you see those things or what they actually do, it’s basically certain that the developers do not see them as malware. And I think it’s reasonable to assume good intentions in making those choices, because it is a PvP game where cheating can negatively impact other players. I would give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.

                Many of the things that the Helldivers 2 devs have done could be excused with the benefit of the doubt as well, but they have stacked up a lot of broken promises, and recently there was a case of very blatant deception. It could be argued that it was not technically lying, but it was obviously intended to deceive. And there has been no apology for the deception since then, either.

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                  15 hours ago

                  I would give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.

                  The developers are rarely the ones making the choice. I do give them the benefit of the doubt, but it’s been shown it doesn’t actually prevent cheating and you’re refusing to let your customers choose how they play. They get the benefit of the doubt that they’re honestly trying to prevent cheaters, but not that it’s a purely benevolent decision towards customers. It’s a trade off, and the option they’re taking is bad for consumers and isn’t effective anyway.

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                    For what it’s worth, cheating in BF6 seems pretty rare. So, it seems that something they’re doing is having an effect at reducing cheating. There are probably other methods that they could use, though.

                    I’m guessing that their decision ultimately comes down to money - they probably figure that other methods would be more expensive to achieve the same result, and that the lost revenue from people who are turned off by the anti cheat is less than that cost.