here is a smart tv OS https://osmc.tv/ it’s foss o think
also someone on reddit just put this on a resperry pi and blackholed the mac addresss of the smart tv on his router
They still do sampling/fingerprinting and shadow mesh networks to reach a connection.
Smart TV’s should not be tolerated.
How does that work. That’s horrifying.
Data jumps from TV to TV (or just Samsung device to Samsung¹ device) til it finds one connected to WiFi that can get to the internet.
¹or whatever company
Absolutely filthy. Fuck I hate ads
There are no possible justifications for this.
People who trot out about “subsidized” prices can take a hike, as the prices haven’t gone down, and there arent options to not have this.
They want their cake and to eat it, and to shit in your mouth.
The first 2 weren’t enough.
Step one:
Plug in a computer device into the first hdmi port.
Step two: Profit?
Or is it even more Invasive then this?
Some smart TVs also run content recognition algorithms on whatever input you give them, and upload it to the company servers who analyze it for profiling your interests. Maybe even sell that information for profit.
Link for more info: https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/home-entertainment/you-should-turn-off-acr-on-your-tv-right-now-and-why-it-makes-such-a-big-difference/
Yes, so you “plug computer into hdmi” and “do not connect TV to network of any variety”
“Before you can use your device, please finish the setup process”
“Step 1: Connect to the internet”
[ ] OK
[X] CancelTV turns off
Then you return that shitbox and complain that it does not function properly.
Easiest 1-star review: TV does not function without internet.
My 2-star review: Someone shit on this TV before returning it. I wanted to give the TV one star because it doesn’t function without Internet. But I’m adding a star because that turd was fucking massive and it’s pretty cool to shit on something like this before returning it.
Set up a temporary network from a phone and kill it as soon as the TV is satisfied, or even better, return it and tell them exactly why.
We shouldn’t be forced to do these things, but connect it to a junk wifi signal setup using tethering or something and once setup is done, disable it.
Itll ping a server. No server, no setup. Itll say it has to download software updates.
There’s always a niche instance but my example gives it a valid, but disposable, connection to complete setup, it can totally ping that server there at the beginning and give the all clear. And then you turn off that disposable Wi-Fi signal.
Tether to a bullshit Wi-Fi name (like with your phone), finish setup, turn it off and never enable that particular name again. Or research if your TV is like that before you buy it and just don’t buy it. But shit happens so you deal with what comes at you as it comes at you.
Apparently, if not configured for local WiFi, many smart TVs will attempt to break into any other SSID they can find - with no input from the user requesting that it do so.
Take it apart and roast the WiFi module.
Good thing routers use encryption by default out of the box these days.
This is an urban legend.
What the fuck.
Just shield your entire living space.
I do sometimes wonder, if the tv isn’t recording what I do on my pc.
Also, RTFM. It took me 5 years to realize that the reason HDR wasn’t working on my tv, is because it only works if I plug my pc in to the third hdmi port.
Some smart TVs do perform content recognition on all input channels, but you should be safe as long as it doesn’t connect to WiFi. See my other comment in this thread for more info.
Yea what is with the tv manufactures not making hdmi 1 the “feature” input. It makes no sense to me! Make 1 the best and sort the others to worst.
Maybe its a residue from “turn to channel 3 to see aux input”? Only halfway /s
As someone who doesn’t own a smart tv, I believe I heard they even show ads as overlay on any input. As long as it is connected to the web, of course.
IIRC the ads (currently) are only done in the smart OS part of the TV, not the direct input.
It can’t download any ads nor invade your privacy if it doesn’t have internet connection.
so are you moving deep into the woods, or will you remove its antenna before turning it on?
No need for the woods, you never connect it to the network.
As others have pointed out: some TVs will connect to any open or low security wifi if none is configured.
This is so gross.
How long until they ship with their own always on 3G cellular antenna so it’s always showing ads without any network setup?
Mesh network. Connect to neighboring TVs, at least one of them will have Internet
I don’t know if it’s on any TVs yet but in the US Amazon operates a LoRa and Bluetooth mesh network to allow various devices to get online through other people’s internet-connected appliances such as their Ring and Echo products: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk
Easy now, Satan.
Jokes on them, I don’t even have cell service at my house and my neighbors are well outside typical range for a node.
Mesh network is actually pretty plausible. I remember reading about Amazon smart devices creating a very slow mesh network with each other. Not sure if that was proof of concept or something they actively do (but I could see that being helpful for certain auto config things, if devices can talk to eachother out of band they can establish better assumptions about the target network that they’re configuring for)
Edit: Amazon Sidewalk is what I was thinking of. Based on the devices it’s on its pretty clearly intended for location tracking like for Tile competitors
jfc don’t give them ideas
BS indeed!
Sorry for those initials as we do not think it is bull shit.
^FU
We appreciate that you contacted us to learn more about our ad function.
Sincerely^GTFO
Look, we can’t be blamed for what our parents named us. ^SMH
Then the laptop laughed, the mouse laughed, the TV laughed….
Ross didn’t laugh.
I’ve never done Business social in any serious capacity. Do platforms really not have an Enterprise feature to internally report who posted something?
Twitter fucked up the API after Musk bought it, but you could at least have employees copy posts into a spreadsheet.
I think this is fake, though. I don’t have a Twitter amount, so I’m not going to check.
Twitter used to, but disabled it.
Oop is an NFT shill
