Eternal growth is one of the biggest myths. It can’t be eternal and will eventually lead to a collapse.
Christ on a cracker, if this doesn’t describe a bubble I don’t know what does. Not only is this just blatantly unsustainable, it’s fucking nuts.
How long until the entire planet is one giant ai facility?
Uh oh. By my napkin math, and some quick searches, there are currently 400k acres of ai/ cloud data centers, (625sq miles) and 57million sq miles of land on the planet. If we keep doubling square footage each time, the 18th 6monthly doubling will bring us to 81,920,000 sq miles, meaning we have a little under 9 years before AI has consumed the entire planet!
The AI’s demands.
What demand? There is no AI demand.
Well, the chatgpt app on the play store is on place number one for the most downloaded apps, and has been there for ages. I think that less tech affine people (which don’t find their way here) use Chatbots pretty often and that there is demand.
I mean we all tried it when it first came out. How much is actual use changing month to month? I would be curious how fast or slowly it is growing.
I really wish companies had to pay for the actual costs. Maybe they wouldn’t force it on people so much.
An AI feature I would actually use would be a toggle in duckduckgo that hid pages which appear to be generated by LLM.
Bonus points if it can provide this service in a cheaper way than using an LLM itself.
Is this paying demand or demand that exists for free services? Now I dont know as much about AI and usage as you guys, but I don’t see any AI companies making profit.
Just to give more context, running ChatGPT is expensive and not enough people are willing to pay for it. So, there is not enough demand for LLMs for it to be actually profitable… so far.
Pretty much everyone I know uses AI daily, so there definitely is demand for it. You’re living in an information bubble and don’t know how commonplace it truly is.
There’s plenty of demand. CEOs and other senior leadership are demanding that it be shoehorned into anything that uses electricity.
From the general public there is no real demand.
There is demand from people in leadership positions who have fallen for the hype to force it onto everyone else.
Let’s face it. These so-called business leaders don’t know jack about work. Thus, the demand comes from a place of hubris.
I spoke with AI and it demands more power.
It’s being artificially created but unfortunately it’s there. Companies and startups are just slurping the kool aid
The demands of hype.
That sounds sustainable
What doesn’t sound sustainable to you about this program?
Do you have any idea how much it takes Sundararajan to sustain a private (family, not the business one) jet and multiple yachts?
Stop being so provincial and close minded.
Ai demand or their desire to have Ai demand?
Creating it
This reminds me of some of the earlier USSR 5 year plans in the 20s and 30s.
Going to the US for the first time as a European this year, it felt like what I would imagine the Soviet Union to feel like (which ended before I was born, though I have been to Russia). Capitalism and not communism is the state ideology, but propaganda for it runs through every layer of society and hypernormalization runs wild.
America today felt more opressive than Russia did a bit more than a decade ago. Which may or may not be a surprise to anyone.
US does feel like the flip side of the coin of the USSR (was born there, albeit I was too young to remember any substantive details).
I’ve lived in both US and Russia for many years, albeit I first experienced US as a young adult.
I will agree that Soviet-style hypernormalization is near universal in the US. I felt this as a young adult, perhaps ~10 years before I actually watched HyperNormalisation. It was clear most of the polemics about “freedom of this or that” was just local bullshit, not to be taken seriously.
I would disagree about russia feeling more oppressive (although I haven’t been there since 2009), but in some ways it was more free than the US, I will agree on that one.
I also only went to Saint Petersburg in Russia and New York, Philadelphia and DC in the US, of which I guess Philadelphia felt somewhat alright and New York was a bit of a strange mix. DC was weird, but I’m sure Moscow would have been back in the day as well. Maybe not a fair comparison.
Why was DC weird for you?
I would say Saint Petersburg isn’t too different from Moscow (albeit I’ve never lived there, only visited).
But I agree in the overall discussion point. US is surprisingly like russia, locals in both countries are into their provincial polemics and axiomatic beliefs.
