Yes…there’s many many examples of poor writing and inconsistency.
…but this is just a joke and it stretches the meaning of the ANH scene to make an inaccurate meme. In the first film the point of Obi Wans comments, in my mind, was to highlight the type of weapons used. It’s more of a “parsec” situation. He was trying to describe the actual impact of the weapon and we’re being distracted by the use of the word precise. He should have said “impact spread”, or something else that wouldn’t have made sense to viewers at the time.
the parsec thing is also meant to be a joke in the film. the script calls for guiness to react incredulously to the obvious nonsense but his reaction is very subtle on screen.
Han was bullshitting them. Remember, Han is a fast talking scoundrel who runs scams on rubes.
For people who don’t know Parsec… is a unit of distance. an object 1 parsec from the sun would be an object that has a parralax angle of 1 arc second. a second of arc is the easiest to explain- it’s 1/60th of a minute of arc, which is 1/60th of a degree. (arc second is 1/3600th of a degree.) it comes to about 3 lightyears.
It would be like saying, “I made the Chicago-NY run in less than [whatever miles]!” when talking about how fast his ship is. The distance is fixed. the kessel run is largely fixed.
I also agree that the fast talking Han messing with a hick kid is the better option.
However I have to at the same time admit that if you are going to make it actually hold up as something literally accurate then it is one of the best retcon jobs ever written to actually make it work.
Sadly it comes from one of the more painful old expanded universe series because Kyp Durron is one of the most insufferable overly perfect wonder kids ever written. Plus also being the books with the Sun Crusher which is fighting for the most overkill super weapon in all of Star Wars. Which is really saying something considering the huge range of super weapons through the franchise.
Like. Why. even? Even the Deathstar serves no real functional purpose. That’s the problem with brinksmanship, and mutually assured destruction. Eventually, you’re gonna have to grab that other guy and jump off the cliff. And now, instead of a economically productive and valuable planet, you have an asteroid field. That, sure, you can mine for minerals, but that effort is now going to cost orders of magnitude more.
And lets be honest. If the goal was to keep people too afraid to try anything, eventually some dumb kid from a dried up backwater is going to blow it up. And then you look really fucking weak.
The economic loss of entire systems, though, is just bad for business.
As much as people seem to like sucking him off, George Lucas is a pretty terrible writer and director. Star Wars only became a hit due to his wife’s editing of the film; if it were left as Lucas’ original vision it would have been a fairly boring flop. I present as further evidence: The Phantom Menace. That movie objectively sucks.
Everyone’s in here making excuses but really it’s just not great writing / continuity
Yes…there’s many many examples of poor writing and inconsistency.
…but this is just a joke and it stretches the meaning of the ANH scene to make an inaccurate meme. In the first film the point of Obi Wans comments, in my mind, was to highlight the type of weapons used. It’s more of a “parsec” situation. He was trying to describe the actual impact of the weapon and we’re being distracted by the use of the word precise. He should have said “impact spread”, or something else that wouldn’t have made sense to viewers at the time.
the parsec thing is also meant to be a joke in the film. the script calls for guiness to react incredulously to the obvious nonsense but his reaction is very subtle on screen.
yup.
Han was bullshitting them. Remember, Han is a fast talking scoundrel who runs scams on rubes.
For people who don’t know Parsec… is a unit of distance. an object 1 parsec from the sun would be an object that has a parralax angle of 1 arc second. a second of arc is the easiest to explain- it’s 1/60th of a minute of arc, which is 1/60th of a degree. (arc second is 1/3600th of a degree.) it comes to about 3 lightyears.
It would be like saying, “I made the Chicago-NY run in less than [whatever miles]!” when talking about how fast his ship is. The distance is fixed. the kessel run is largely fixed.
well, not anymore. it’s been backwritten into some sort of space-warping area where keeping your distance short is impressive
I ignore that. I prefer the bullshitting scoundrel, to be honest.
Maybe Han came up with that when he got called on it. lol.
I also agree that the fast talking Han messing with a hick kid is the better option.
However I have to at the same time admit that if you are going to make it actually hold up as something literally accurate then it is one of the best retcon jobs ever written to actually make it work.
Sadly it comes from one of the more painful old expanded universe series because Kyp Durron is one of the most insufferable overly perfect wonder kids ever written. Plus also being the books with the Sun Crusher which is fighting for the most overkill super weapon in all of Star Wars. Which is really saying something considering the huge range of super weapons through the franchise.
Yeah. Sun Crusher is… uhm.
Like. Why. even? Even the Deathstar serves no real functional purpose. That’s the problem with brinksmanship, and mutually assured destruction. Eventually, you’re gonna have to grab that other guy and jump off the cliff. And now, instead of a economically productive and valuable planet, you have an asteroid field. That, sure, you can mine for minerals, but that effort is now going to cost orders of magnitude more.
And lets be honest. If the goal was to keep people too afraid to try anything, eventually some dumb kid from a dried up backwater is going to blow it up. And then you look really fucking weak.
The economic loss of entire systems, though, is just bad for business.
As much as people seem to like sucking him off, George Lucas is a pretty terrible writer and director. Star Wars only became a hit due to his wife’s editing of the film; if it were left as Lucas’ original vision it would have been a fairly boring flop. I present as further evidence: The Phantom Menace. That movie objectively sucks.
Yeah I watched a YouTube video on how her and some other guy basically redid the whole movie in post. She saved that movie
thats why I’m here