I’m not going to pretend this is an emotionally easy or comfortable approach. There’s a desire to protect the victims and write off the perpetrators on one hand and on the other, there’s the men who feel attacked by the idea that abusive and violent men are having mental health issues. But I believe in evidence based solutions. If this works, and it doesn’t violate fundamental rights (which it doesn’t), then it’s a path I want pursued.
And it makes a lot of sense to me. Every abuser I’ve had has had mental health issues. My father couldn’t fully control big emotions in the moment, and so when he didn’t have the capacity to step away, such as a car ride or a hotel room, he scared the shit out of us.
I would love a pilot program that forces domestic abusers into mental health treatment similar to addicts are sometimes put into sobriety programs.
As the woman who opened the first domestic violence shelter in the world found out, most domestic violence issues are reciprocal in the relationships.
That said, if the men or the women are have mental health issues that can be helped with medications, why is this a big deal.
Sounds great.
Edit: I went and looked some things up myself… apparently there are now acronyms and new language I was previously unaware of. IPV is intimate partner violence…. IPV can apparently be non reciprocal or reciprocal (bidirectional)… reciprocal / bidirectional is more prevalent… so yeah, I also watched some cool videos online about issues men are facing which was cool, but again… if antidepressants can help some women and men be less violent in their relationships, hopefully this is a good thing…
Having seen mutually abusive relationships I think it’s far more complicated than it may initially feel like. It’s less “abusers wind up with abusers” and more that people whose understanding of love is abuse wind up together because healthy relationships feel wrong or nobody else will put up with them. But whether or not that happens, mutually destructive behaviors compound. When you can’t get a word in edgewise you may start to raise tour voice. When you get hit you may start to emotionally manipulate your partner. When you get emotionally manipulated you may escalate. It becomes an oroboros of unhealthy behaviors.
None of this makes the victims not victims. It also doesn’t mean it’s all people or that these people can’t change after leaving. This cycle needs to be broken when it manifests, and it needs to happen before someone dies.
I’m not going to pretend this is an emotionally easy or comfortable approach. There’s a desire to protect the victims and write off the perpetrators on one hand and on the other, there’s the men who feel attacked by the idea that abusive and violent men are having mental health issues. But I believe in evidence based solutions. If this works, and it doesn’t violate fundamental rights (which it doesn’t), then it’s a path I want pursued.
And it makes a lot of sense to me. Every abuser I’ve had has had mental health issues. My father couldn’t fully control big emotions in the moment, and so when he didn’t have the capacity to step away, such as a car ride or a hotel room, he scared the shit out of us.
I would love a pilot program that forces domestic abusers into mental health treatment similar to addicts are sometimes put into sobriety programs.
As the woman who opened the first domestic violence shelter in the world found out, most domestic violence issues are reciprocal in the relationships.
That said, if the men or the women are have mental health issues that can be helped with medications, why is this a big deal.
Sounds great.
Edit: I went and looked some things up myself… apparently there are now acronyms and new language I was previously unaware of. IPV is intimate partner violence…. IPV can apparently be non reciprocal or reciprocal (bidirectional)… reciprocal / bidirectional is more prevalent… so yeah, I also watched some cool videos online about issues men are facing which was cool, but again… if antidepressants can help some women and men be less violent in their relationships, hopefully this is a good thing…
Having seen mutually abusive relationships I think it’s far more complicated than it may initially feel like. It’s less “abusers wind up with abusers” and more that people whose understanding of love is abuse wind up together because healthy relationships feel wrong or nobody else will put up with them. But whether or not that happens, mutually destructive behaviors compound. When you can’t get a word in edgewise you may start to raise tour voice. When you get hit you may start to emotionally manipulate your partner. When you get emotionally manipulated you may escalate. It becomes an oroboros of unhealthy behaviors.
None of this makes the victims not victims. It also doesn’t mean it’s all people or that these people can’t change after leaving. This cycle needs to be broken when it manifests, and it needs to happen before someone dies.
Nice 👍
Definitely a citation needed there
Easy enough to find if you’re interested.
Idk woman who created first domestic violence shelter, domestic violence studies…. Lol
She tried to open a domestic violence shelter for men, but couldn’t get funding.
Men are stronger than women. We notice black eyes and death easier than emotional and psychological trauma.
So where is the citation?
That same founder is now banned from the place she founded.
Wikipedia also had a citation needed for her claims.
Feel free to look it up like I said 👍
And I clearly did. So are you gonna put up or shut up?
You seem angry about something. Not my problem. Glad you looked it up 👍
So that’s a no: you have no proof to back your bigoted claims. You’re just a bigot. Cool.