Never happened with many Zelda and Mario games before. They are on the safe side, if the code is 100% self written. The assets are not part of the project, they can be extracted from the official games. This is legal.
C&D is part of the SLAPP suits strategy, and isn’t really about legal or not, it’s intimidation until someone give up due to the legal fee of fighting said lawsuit. It happened to Yuzu, while pretty much other nintendo emulator still around.
This is not what happened to Yuzu. They gave up, because the Yuzu team would lose the case. Nintendo collected evidence in their Discord server, how the developers of Yuzu shared Tears of the Kingdom millionth of times. It was 100% not legal. On the other side, we are talking about legal projects like decompiling.
If you are so right, why didn’t Nintendo Cease and Desist prior projects? What makes it Twilight Princess so different or special, that it will happen now? I know why, because Nintendo can’t do anything here. Cease and Desist letters are a personal request, not a legal threat. If the team ignores it, nothing will happen.
The experience and risks of being sued depends heavily on the amount of money you have. Just being sued, even if eventually unsubstantiated, sucks hard. It consumes time, energy, and money, and all this time you live with the “but what if I get the one bad judge?”
Sued for what? There is nothing Nintendo can sue for. Also we talked about Cease and Desist before, not sueing. Also can you explain me, if you are right, why Nintendo didn’t do that with prior decompilation projects of Mario and Zelda games that reached 100% and are played on a variety of systems now?
Sued for what? There is nothing Nintendo can sue for. Also we talked about Cease and Desist before, not sueing.
A c&d is a precursor of being sued. If you do not cease and desist, what is the result of that?
Also can you explain me, if you are right, why Nintendo didn’t do that with prior decompilation projects of Mario and Zelda games that reached 100% and are played on a variety of systems now?
I can explain to you, that Nintendo is famous for suing people implementing emulators of their platforms and is also going after things like palworld. It is new information to me, that these decompilation projects exist. I guess they are niche enough to not be interesting to nintendo right now. This does not remove all the other cases where nintendo went after people with lawsuits.
I’m gonna hazard a guess and claim that they would go for a copyright infringement claim, as they always do. Again: it does not matter, if they are actually in the right. Even the threat of being sued for something completely made up is still a credible threat if the relative costs are that unevenly matched. Nintendo doesn’t give a shit about what these lawyers cost, even if they lose the lawsuit in the end. The goal isn’t winning the lawsuit. The goal is intimidation, wasting your ressources, time and money. Which they also achive when they lose the lawsuit.
I don’t think that’s right. Nintendo cares about the lawyers cost, because that is huge. Especially the expensive ones Nintendo has, if it goes for a long time. Nintendo wants to settle this, not dragging it in court. Plus Nintendo losing in court would be very bad for them, because that signals others they can fight back. And worse, if they lose, then it becomes 100% legal everyone can point to.
Therefore Nintendo does that only if they are 100% certain, not just to intimidate like Rockstar does. And the brought up case of Yuzu does not apply here, because that was not just intimidation, that was because the Yuzu developers themselves shared Tears of the Kingdom millionth of times in Discord. And Nintendo collected this evidence against them. Yet, Nintendo did not go to court and wanted to do this with a settlement. Even in this case, Nintendo saves money and does not risk losing the battle.
Never happened with many Zelda and Mario games before. They are on the safe side, if the code is 100% self written. The assets are not part of the project, they can be extracted from the official games. This is legal.
C&D is part of the SLAPP suits strategy, and isn’t really about legal or not, it’s intimidation until someone give up due to the legal fee of fighting said lawsuit. It happened to Yuzu, while pretty much other nintendo emulator still around.
This is not what happened to Yuzu. They gave up, because the Yuzu team would lose the case. Nintendo collected evidence in their Discord server, how the developers of Yuzu shared Tears of the Kingdom millionth of times. It was 100% not legal. On the other side, we are talking about legal projects like decompiling.
If you are so right, why didn’t Nintendo Cease and Desist prior projects? What makes it Twilight Princess so different or special, that it will happen now? I know why, because Nintendo can’t do anything here. Cease and Desist letters are a personal request, not a legal threat. If the team ignores it, nothing will happen.
I’m not sure Nintendo cares about what’s legal
It doesn’t matter what Nintendo cares, if it is legal.
The experience and risks of being sued depends heavily on the amount of money you have. Just being sued, even if eventually unsubstantiated, sucks hard. It consumes time, energy, and money, and all this time you live with the “but what if I get the one bad judge?”
Sued for what? There is nothing Nintendo can sue for. Also we talked about Cease and Desist before, not sueing. Also can you explain me, if you are right, why Nintendo didn’t do that with prior decompilation projects of Mario and Zelda games that reached 100% and are played on a variety of systems now?
A c&d is a precursor of being sued. If you do not cease and desist, what is the result of that?
I can explain to you, that Nintendo is famous for suing people implementing emulators of their platforms and is also going after things like palworld. It is new information to me, that these decompilation projects exist. I guess they are niche enough to not be interesting to nintendo right now. This does not remove all the other cases where nintendo went after people with lawsuits.
As said, there is nothing Nintendo can sue for. Therefore, what Cease and desist should it be?
https://www.polygon.com/24090351/nintendo-2-4-million-yuzu-switch-emulator-settlement-lawsuit/
I’m gonna hazard a guess and claim that they would go for a copyright infringement claim, as they always do. Again: it does not matter, if they are actually in the right. Even the threat of being sued for something completely made up is still a credible threat if the relative costs are that unevenly matched. Nintendo doesn’t give a shit about what these lawyers cost, even if they lose the lawsuit in the end. The goal isn’t winning the lawsuit. The goal is intimidation, wasting your ressources, time and money. Which they also achive when they lose the lawsuit.
I don’t think that’s right. Nintendo cares about the lawyers cost, because that is huge. Especially the expensive ones Nintendo has, if it goes for a long time. Nintendo wants to settle this, not dragging it in court. Plus Nintendo losing in court would be very bad for them, because that signals others they can fight back. And worse, if they lose, then it becomes 100% legal everyone can point to.
Therefore Nintendo does that only if they are 100% certain, not just to intimidate like Rockstar does. And the brought up case of Yuzu does not apply here, because that was not just intimidation, that was because the Yuzu developers themselves shared Tears of the Kingdom millionth of times in Discord. And Nintendo collected this evidence against them. Yet, Nintendo did not go to court and wanted to do this with a settlement. Even in this case, Nintendo saves money and does not risk losing the battle.