• Vik@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    what a profoundly stupid country

    if you make peaceful protest illegal, how do you think discourse will develop from there?

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      Oh it’s actually worse than that. Protesting isn’t illegal, it’s just that the government and the police get to choose which protests are allowed.

      What this means is that they can have the illusion of allowing protests but actually ban protests but they don’t like. Case in point, Tommy Robinson’s rallies are allowed, but protests against the genocide in Gaza can be shut down if somebody mentions the words “Palestine” and “action”.

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      That’s the point. The governments don’t give a damn about you or the issues. You must simply never disagree with them.

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      Green Peace went militant and lost a ton of support. I’ve already seen this movie a few times now. The UK is making an example with Greta before a legit army forms behind her. Go against the grain, you get the ax.

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        Green Peace went militant and lost a ton of support.

        What the actual fuck are you on about

        This law came from the Tories silencing protest against genocide to appease their donors

        The London Met are frequently caught being fascists who abuse women

        And now we’ve got the least left wing labour government of all time happily not doing anything about it.

        They’re just letting the Met arrest anyone with any word resembling Palestine on them

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          They’re not letting the Met do anything.

          They’re explicitly instructing them to, with proscription and their crackdown on protest moreso than the Tories did.

          We have red Tories in charge just now instead of blue Tories. It’s the Democrats and Republicans in America all over again. And because both flavours of Tory are shite, people are dissatisfied and terrifyingly pledging their support to Reform (aka the fascist party) instead.

          Your Party (socialists) and The Greens (environmentally focused social democrats-ish) are also gaining vote share but alarmingly not at the same rate as Reform.

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          What the actual fuck am I on about? Rudé Booty much?

          I’m talking about loud voices with good opinions/intentions being silenced by the government so the government can keep power and profit before said voices get too loud.

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            19 hours ago

            My reaction was to do with your insinuation this has anything to do with green peace. Which it categorically does not

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              19 hours ago

              The top-level comment was an allusion to the JFK quote “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

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                19 hours ago

                Sure, and I was responding to the line that weirdly blamed green peace for something they had nothing to do with

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                  He was using it as a counter example to the idea that if peaceful protest is being blocked, violent ones will be more effective. Not sure I agree with his take, but he’s definitely not blaming Greenpeace for this.

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    I like this Palestine Action group.

    Meaningful change has never happened without people fighting back. Look at how many people got arrested during the Civil Rights movement in the US.