Traditional initiation is a rite of passage into manhood for young males that is practiced by various ethnic groups in Africa, including parts of South Africa. Among them are the Xhosa, Ndebele, Sotho and Venda communities.
The comment you’re replying to has got to be a bot. Like, wtf? What kind of sick individual calls it derogatory to say, “Hey, let’s not mutilate childrens’ genitals.”
Tell me youre a fucked up psychopath with telling me.
What the actual fuck does being a white supremacist have to do with male genitals mutilation?
Let’s put it this way. If your cultural, religious, or ideological leanings require you to cut off foreskins or clitoral hoods off unconsenting children, youre a sick fuck.
If you dont have those cultural, religious, or ideological leanings, and you just enjoy watching children get mutilated, youre a sick fuck.
White supremacists and child circumcision enthusiasts such as yourself are all sick fucks.
This entire debate has gained traction over the last 10-15 years, largely because European white nationalists have been promoting anti-immigration legislation in several EU countries, in response to the influx of Syrian refugees after the Arab Spring.
They thought that by passing anti-circumcision laws in their countries, those immigrants would choose to settle elsewhere. All they had to do, was amplify and promote pseudo-scientific studies proclaiming the “evils” of “male genital mutilation” in order to turn public support in their favor.
It worked like a charm. Now all you guys are repeating the same racist bullshit, without even realizing where you got it from.
That’s a really stupid fucking take on the situation. The mutilation is unnecessary and evil, you insipid little cretin.
We’re all against it because it puts children in pointless amount of pain for unnecessary medical procedures for something that doesn’t need to be removed.
Oh you don’t seem to understand what an ad hominen is either.
Saying “you’re a moron, so you defending mutilation of children’s genital is wrong” would be an ad hominen. Saying “mutilation of child genitals is wrong, you insipid little cretin” isn’t an ad hominen as the argument doesn’t rely on the insult being true. The insult is just an insult. Not all insults are ad hominem. Which you’d know if you’d actually read up on it even once, but you just go with what other people think.
So youre defending cutting off the prepuce of male children, because you’ve bought drank the coolaid and pretend like theres actual science supporting that mutilation. I’ve genuinely looked through the studies. There’s no objective evidence of a circumcision helping anyone unless done at puberty to kids suffering from phimosis. And only a small cut is done, the prepuce isn’t removed.
Try to argue that removing the clitoral hood is a good thing. Try saying that. It’s biologically homologous, although I’m sure you don’t know what that means.
“It’s Nazism to say that my parents shouldn’t have allowed my genitals to be operated on without my consent”
You didn’t successfully bait me though. I’m just having to wait for home deliver before getting out of bed because I’m not gonna get up without coffee, so I’m just killing a bit of time by laughing at people defending the mutilation of child genitals
Exactly. You are basically saying that circumcised men are disfigured. Are you aware of how inherently negative that description is for circumcised men? Does it not bother you to refer to other men with such disdain and disrespect?
You’ve got the wrong person. The only thing I did was deliver to you the dictionary definition of the word mutilate. I made no other claims, expressions, or comments on the topic at hand.
You have shifted to a common logical fallacy called the Straw Man argument. This attempt has failed.
Please point to the derogatory word in the sentence
The comment you’re replying to has got to be a bot. Like, wtf? What kind of sick individual calls it derogatory to say, “Hey, let’s not mutilate childrens’ genitals.”
Tell me youre a fucked up psychopath with telling me.
Not a bot, dude. Just also not a white supremacist.
What the actual fuck does being a white supremacist have to do with male genitals mutilation?
Let’s put it this way. If your cultural, religious, or ideological leanings require you to cut off foreskins or clitoral hoods off unconsenting children, youre a sick fuck.
If you dont have those cultural, religious, or ideological leanings, and you just enjoy watching children get mutilated, youre a sick fuck.
White supremacists and child circumcision enthusiasts such as yourself are all sick fucks.
This entire debate has gained traction over the last 10-15 years, largely because European white nationalists have been promoting anti-immigration legislation in several EU countries, in response to the influx of Syrian refugees after the Arab Spring.
They thought that by passing anti-circumcision laws in their countries, those immigrants would choose to settle elsewhere. All they had to do, was amplify and promote pseudo-scientific studies proclaiming the “evils” of “male genital mutilation” in order to turn public support in their favor.
It worked like a charm. Now all you guys are repeating the same racist bullshit, without even realizing where you got it from.
That’s a really stupid fucking take on the situation. The mutilation is unnecessary and evil, you insipid little cretin.
We’re all against it because it puts children in pointless amount of pain for unnecessary medical procedures for something that doesn’t need to be removed.
Please kindly stfu.
You can always tell when someone has lost an argument, once they resort to ad hominem attacks.
Oh you don’t seem to understand what an ad hominen is either.
Saying “you’re a moron, so you defending mutilation of children’s genital is wrong” would be an ad hominen. Saying “mutilation of child genitals is wrong, you insipid little cretin” isn’t an ad hominen as the argument doesn’t rely on the insult being true. The insult is just an insult. Not all insults are ad hominem. Which you’d know if you’d actually read up on it even once, but you just go with what other people think.
So youre defending cutting off the prepuce of male children, because you’ve bought drank the coolaid and pretend like theres actual science supporting that mutilation. I’ve genuinely looked through the studies. There’s no objective evidence of a circumcision helping anyone unless done at puberty to kids suffering from phimosis. And only a small cut is done, the prepuce isn’t removed.
Try to argue that removing the clitoral hood is a good thing. Try saying that. It’s biologically homologous, although I’m sure you don’t know what that means.
“It’s Nazism to say that my parents shouldn’t have allowed my genitals to be operated on without my consent”
You didn’t successfully bait me though. I’m just having to wait for home deliver before getting out of bed because I’m not gonna get up without coffee, so I’m just killing a bit of time by laughing at people defending the mutilation of child genitals
The L is all yours here little buddy, at least try to accept it with some dignity.
The term “mutilation” is inherently derogatory.
It is not derogatory. The word means:
“… or disfigure, especially by cutting off tissue or body parts.”
from Latin mutilātus (past participle of mutilāre “to cut off, maim”)
Exactly. You are basically saying that circumcised men are disfigured. Are you aware of how inherently negative that description is for circumcised men? Does it not bother you to refer to other men with such disdain and disrespect?
Maybe stop actively supporting the permanent disfiguring of newborns and we might show even your mutilated dick some respect?
And yes, all circumcised men are disfigured.
The disdain isn’t for the victims of the mutilation, it’s for people like you who should know better.
Really? It doesn’t look that way to the people you’re calling “mutilated”.
It’s so painfully obvious that you are taking this discussion personally. Go touch grass. It’s not your fault that you were disfigured.
That’s a weird take, considering you’re the one who has a problem with other people’s genitals.
You’ve got the wrong person. The only thing I did was deliver to you the dictionary definition of the word mutilate. I made no other claims, expressions, or comments on the topic at hand.
You have shifted to a common logical fallacy called the Straw Man argument. This attempt has failed.
This conversation is over.
So, let me see if I understand you…
You post the definition of “mutilation” in response to a previous comment…
…I assumed, in good faith…that that was your position on that topic (because why else would you have posted it?)
…and now you’re attempting to distance yourself from that position, by pretending that I’m the one misrepresenting what you posted?
Buddy…that is a form of strawman argument. You’re now intentionally misrepresenting your own position, in order to misrepresent my response to it.
The same term is used for women.