• MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca
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    Given that calling Israel a nazi state has become not uncommon, I’d say we’ve pretty much forgotten what Nazis are/were and it’s now just a perjorative for evil people/governments.

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        Or has its roots in collaboration the National Socialists of 1930’s Germany with a certain Haavara agreement, which would eventually result in the modern state if Israel…

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        There are a variety of genocidal, nationalist ideologies though. They’re not all Nazis.

        I don’t think you can really separate Nazism from antisemitism. It’s a core part of the ideology. So I don’t find this label to be accurate.

        Fascist, sure, since that’s a broader category that includes multiple iterations of the same basic approach to genocidal authoritarianism.

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          Colloquial use of the word Nazi is pretty much synonymous with fascist, and I don’t really have a problem with that outside of - like - academic discourse and such.

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            True but Jews were the biggest component and ideologically central to the narrative they told to justify their violence.

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              Anyone except them was the narrative. Anyone but them were the underrace. One of the reasons Jewish victims became the poster victim of the Nazi machine was because they were the most collective of those killed. And no one cared about the lqbt+, the gypsies, communists, polish etc.

              Killing Jewish people was not core to Nazis they were just easy targets for the Nazis to use like immigrants today are used to rile up bases against the underrace/enemies

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                Mein Kampf has a lot of rambles about jews. It’s not coincidence that they were the largest group of victims.

                I don’t really like it being synonymous with fascist, nazi to me specifically implies someone thinks hitler wasn’t so bad actually. Not that I’ll split hairs over it because assholes are assholes, it’s far more annoying when either word is used for “this person has done a bad thing that could be vaguely classified as right wing”

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      This sounds suspiciously like denial of Isreals atrociticies since their inception, including genocide. Isreal is the best example of a modern Nazis state (the US is another much larger beast).

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      Be that as it may (it isn’t), this is was a website of actual for-real nazis who explicitly describe themselves as nazis.