Man AI explanations are so… soulless and dull. And useless, even though I read this huge wall of text, I’m not closer to understanding what this plugin actually does.
It’s like it tries to rephrase a 5-sentence explanation as another 5-sentence explanation without grasping that it could be explained in 5 words concisely…
So you know how when you’re interacting with an AI bot (chatgpt/copilot or Gemini or Claude etc) you have a chat history with it and it “remembers” its previous output and can reference it if you ask follow up stuff.
You can use that behavior to try to get the model to give you a better answer by having it “think” about the prompt you fed it either by asking further probing questions or honing your initial prompt in or staying “hey this thing you wrote doesn’t make sense” and it’ll try to fix it.
Well what this does is just takes the initial prompt and keeps feeding it to the bot after it spits out the response. Then it keeps doing that again and again with the same prompt. The idea is that it makes the AI look at it more and more and that the AI can “learn” from itself and make the output better.
In other words, it’s like if you just copied your prompt and after every response to it just pasted it back in and sent it on through again.
I’m very skeptical this works well but I’m not an expert in LLM or how they work, I just know enough about how they work to know this AI craze is most assuredly a market bubble.
I think you missed the bit that makes this sort of maybe make a tiny lick of sense: you use this to write code that you evaluate against tests, and put a maximum iterations counter in to make sure it doesn’t go infinite.
Yes, this is still going to melt the planet just a little bit faster every time it’s used. Yes, it’s most likely to completely fail and, even in cases where it eventually succeeds, it would likely have been orders of magnitude more compute efficient to vibe code it the usual way of actually, like, vibing the code. (Is that what re-prompting is called for vibe coding?)
But it could maybe, kinda, sometimes work. If you squint your eyes. And you’re a Boomer who doesn’t give a shit about the looming climate apocalypse.
I’d rather focus more on the people pushing AI or consuming it uncritically (which does include Baby Boomers, yes, but also people all over the age spectrum), and less on age groups we are unable to get out of.
me being upset about generation warring
a bit disheartening that people are doing the generation wars, most of the Baby Boomers I talk to give a shit about the looming climate apocalypse and are concerned about AI; god I hope that if people in my generation do bad things people aren’t inclined to dismiss me on sight as “stupid [andioop’s generational cohort]” especially since there is nothing I can do to change when I was born and thus what generational group I’m placed in. Wasn’t there a whole thing about not making assumptions of people based on demographics we cannot choose? Blame people for choosing the Nazi party, but not for their skin color or gender or sexuality. Why doesn’t that extend to age? Why are all elderly people lumped in with the bad ones at the top? Or is it just “a demographic you choose is okay to bash if positions of power are primarily composed of its members, no matter how many decent people who do not have that level of power share that demographic”? I think a lot of people are doing that and it rubs me super wrong, as a person whose demographics are not traditionally empowered so my perspective cannot just be dismissed as “fragile white male tears” because I am not a white male
I don’t think all Boomers are bad. Lots care about the climate, and (sadly) many younger people don’t care about the climate, too. Hence why I clarified:
a Boomer who doesn’t give a shit about the looming climate apocalypse.
The reason it matters they’re a Boomer is because anyone younger is going to be facing the reality of climate change regardless of what they care about.
I’m going to just point out that hating all white males is just as backwards as hating all older generations. Hating anyone for stuff like that is stupid period. Not saying you do, it’s just the last sentence feels like you’re trying to appeal to people using the same BS you’re arguing against.
Oh yeah, you are absolutely right, that is another thing that bothers me. (Obviously I still believe listening to minority voices is important.) Me bringing that up is specifically directed at the type of person who might dismiss opinions from people because they are white males, especially if the opinion is about not liking the way majority demographics sometimes get spoken about. It is me saying to that type of person that they cannot dismiss my position of disliking punching up at demographics by going “of course you’d say that, you are the demographic being punched up at!” I am from the non-male, non-white demographics that they are trying to empower with this “lol white man bad” stuff.
And yes, fully aware speaking ≠ the many harms that went way past speaking done to minorities in the past. But also this kind of stuff is what I think contributes to some more people being funneled towards alt right perspectives. “Yes, white men bad is a hypocritical stance” video -> more “silly stupid liberals” videos (whether they do actually point out legit problems with social justice or not) down into “The world is actually completely stacked against white men, who are just better than the other demographics which is why women are only good for breeding and men of color are too stupid for anything besides manual labor. Structural/systemic oppression, biases, and other genders don’t exist, that’s woke DEI nonsense. Also, the stupid liberals telling you otherwise are also telling you lies that vaccines work and climate change is happening.”
I think the main idea is that it’s an “agent” that runs command line commands and then considers the output. It definitely helps sometimes to show a LLM the errors its code generated.
Man AI explanations are so… soulless and dull. And useless, even though I read this huge wall of text, I’m not closer to understanding what this plugin actually does.
It’s like it tries to rephrase a 5-sentence explanation as another 5-sentence explanation without grasping that it could be explained in 5 words concisely…
That’s how I feel coming across half of github projects or frameworks.
Amen brother - so much assumed context (that I’m invariably lacking)
Sounds like they tested their plugin on the readme generation
Sounds like every piece of corporate literature produced in at least the last decade
Because I’d bet my left kidney that at least the intro half of the readme is written by AI, if not the whole thing
So you know how when you’re interacting with an AI bot (chatgpt/copilot or Gemini or Claude etc) you have a chat history with it and it “remembers” its previous output and can reference it if you ask follow up stuff.
You can use that behavior to try to get the model to give you a better answer by having it “think” about the prompt you fed it either by asking further probing questions or honing your initial prompt in or staying “hey this thing you wrote doesn’t make sense” and it’ll try to fix it.
Well what this does is just takes the initial prompt and keeps feeding it to the bot after it spits out the response. Then it keeps doing that again and again with the same prompt. The idea is that it makes the AI look at it more and more and that the AI can “learn” from itself and make the output better.
In other words, it’s like if you just copied your prompt and after every response to it just pasted it back in and sent it on through again.
I’m very skeptical this works well but I’m not an expert in LLM or how they work, I just know enough about how they work to know this AI craze is most assuredly a market bubble.
I think you missed the bit that makes this sort of maybe make a tiny lick of sense: you use this to write code that you evaluate against tests, and put a maximum iterations counter in to make sure it doesn’t go infinite.
Yes, this is still going to melt the planet just a little bit faster every time it’s used. Yes, it’s most likely to completely fail and, even in cases where it eventually succeeds, it would likely have been orders of magnitude more compute efficient to vibe code it the usual way of actually, like, vibing the code. (Is that what re-prompting is called for vibe coding?)
But it could maybe, kinda, sometimes work. If you squint your eyes. And you’re a Boomer who doesn’t give a shit about the looming climate apocalypse.
I’d rather focus more on the people pushing AI or consuming it uncritically (which does include Baby Boomers, yes, but also people all over the age spectrum), and less on age groups we are unable to get out of.
me being upset about generation warring
a bit disheartening that people are doing the generation wars, most of the Baby Boomers I talk to give a shit about the looming climate apocalypse and are concerned about AI; god I hope that if people in my generation do bad things people aren’t inclined to dismiss me on sight as “stupid [andioop’s generational cohort]” especially since there is nothing I can do to change when I was born and thus what generational group I’m placed in. Wasn’t there a whole thing about not making assumptions of people based on demographics we cannot choose? Blame people for choosing the Nazi party, but not for their skin color or gender or sexuality. Why doesn’t that extend to age? Why are all elderly people lumped in with the bad ones at the top? Or is it just “a demographic you choose is okay to bash if positions of power are primarily composed of its members, no matter how many decent people who do not have that level of power share that demographic”? I think a lot of people are doing that and it rubs me super wrong, as a person whose demographics are not traditionally empowered so my perspective cannot just be dismissed as “fragile white male tears” because I am not a white male
I don’t think all Boomers are bad. Lots care about the climate, and (sadly) many younger people don’t care about the climate, too. Hence why I clarified:
The reason it matters they’re a Boomer is because anyone younger is going to be facing the reality of climate change regardless of what they care about.
Hey, I missed that caveat, thank you for pointing it out!
I’m going to just point out that hating all white males is just as backwards as hating all older generations. Hating anyone for stuff like that is stupid period. Not saying you do, it’s just the last sentence feels like you’re trying to appeal to people using the same BS you’re arguing against.
Oh yeah, you are absolutely right, that is another thing that bothers me. (Obviously I still believe listening to minority voices is important.) Me bringing that up is specifically directed at the type of person who might dismiss opinions from people because they are white males, especially if the opinion is about not liking the way majority demographics sometimes get spoken about. It is me saying to that type of person that they cannot dismiss my position of disliking punching up at demographics by going “of course you’d say that, you are the demographic being punched up at!” I am from the non-male, non-white demographics that they are trying to empower with this “lol white man bad” stuff.
And yes, fully aware speaking ≠ the many harms that went way past speaking done to minorities in the past. But also this kind of stuff is what I think contributes to some more people being funneled towards alt right perspectives. “Yes, white men bad is a hypocritical stance” video -> more “silly stupid liberals” videos (whether they do actually point out legit problems with social justice or not) down into “The world is actually completely stacked against white men, who are just better than the other demographics which is why women are only good for breeding and men of color are too stupid for anything besides manual labor. Structural/systemic oppression, biases, and other genders don’t exist, that’s woke DEI nonsense. Also, the stupid liberals telling you otherwise are also telling you lies that vaccines work and climate change is happening.”
I think the main idea is that it’s an “agent” that runs command line commands and then considers the output. It definitely helps sometimes to show a LLM the errors its code generated.
it seems you have read my documentation