There are multiple victims of war pictured here and the comic doesn’t seem to notice or care why that is. It celebrates it even, as empathy, which is such a crushing example of how warped perspectives can become.
Yah this is the general perception of Liberal America, and really the liberal populations of many countries who are just raised on propaganda and don’t really think systemically. IE: the bulk of all people.
This comic SHOULD be a window into how the average, median voter thinks and feels about the country, if we understood and accepted this common perception instead of cringing at it we could make a lot better progress in actually getting people to recognize the problems with the military and the state, but for most people this is patriotism and they don’t think “america bad” every time they see a soldier missing a limb.
A comic like this does more net good than all the lecturing and guilting people for being involved in a corrupt system, and I still don’t know who the “They” are.
Because the punchline, not the content before it. It’s telling the average American with an ambivalent at worst view of the US international presence and military (and there are a LOT of military families in the US, we need to understand this to move politics) will see a cartoon like this and it will plant an idea in their head that we can’t trust the shit the Joe Rogan promotes and that Elon Musk is just bad. This is what we want, this about the most we can fucking hope for in the US, the average American has no clue what’s going on.
I beg people to actually read the 2024 exit polling, I promise you, no matter how bad you think the situation is, it’s worse.
Right but maybe if we want to shit on Elon Musk and Joe Rogan we can do so by showing actual examples of empathy rather than glorifying something evil and unempathetic.
Sure, I’d be fine with that, it would be great, but it would be preaching to the choir. The people who would nod in agreement on that message will be people who already know that Musk and Rogan are pieces of shit who should be questioned. My point here is that this connects with the people who don’t see it that way, and that’s important for power. There are several million military families, and far more adjacent and extended members who have a favorable image of the US military.
The left broadly needs to start thinking in terms of power and politics, we’re too hung up on trying to get everything perfect instead of capitalizing and leveraging the actual sources of power, such as liberal, uninvolved, uninformed America.
I fully agree, but that US imperialism is powered by tens of millions of people who listen to Rogan and Musk every day and think the US military are like the badass heroes in the Transformers movies. We don’t make traction telling them “ARMY BAD” we make traction telling them to stop believing what they see. Carts and horses.
I don’t think it’s Rogan and Musk that are getting people to support US imperialism. It’s so pervasive it’s treated as the default. That’s what leads to images like this one.
There are multiple victims of war pictured here and the comic doesn’t seem to notice or care why that is. It celebrates it even, as empathy, which is such a crushing example of how warped perspectives can become.
Yah this is the general perception of Liberal America, and really the liberal populations of many countries who are just raised on propaganda and don’t really think systemically. IE: the bulk of all people.
This comic SHOULD be a window into how the average, median voter thinks and feels about the country, if we understood and accepted this common perception instead of cringing at it we could make a lot better progress in actually getting people to recognize the problems with the military and the state, but for most people this is patriotism and they don’t think “america bad” every time they see a soldier missing a limb.
A comic like this does more net good than all the lecturing and guilting people for being involved in a corrupt system, and I still don’t know who the “They” are.
How is it a net good if the average person is just going to see it and reinforce their views?
Because the punchline, not the content before it. It’s telling the average American with an ambivalent at worst view of the US international presence and military (and there are a LOT of military families in the US, we need to understand this to move politics) will see a cartoon like this and it will plant an idea in their head that we can’t trust the shit the Joe Rogan promotes and that Elon Musk is just bad. This is what we want, this about the most we can fucking hope for in the US, the average American has no clue what’s going on.
I beg people to actually read the 2024 exit polling, I promise you, no matter how bad you think the situation is, it’s worse.
Right but maybe if we want to shit on Elon Musk and Joe Rogan we can do so by showing actual examples of empathy rather than glorifying something evil and unempathetic.
Sure, I’d be fine with that, it would be great, but it would be preaching to the choir. The people who would nod in agreement on that message will be people who already know that Musk and Rogan are pieces of shit who should be questioned. My point here is that this connects with the people who don’t see it that way, and that’s important for power. There are several million military families, and far more adjacent and extended members who have a favorable image of the US military.
The left broadly needs to start thinking in terms of power and politics, we’re too hung up on trying to get everything perfect instead of capitalizing and leveraging the actual sources of power, such as liberal, uninvolved, uninformed America.
I feel like being against US imperialism is a higher concern than Musk saying “empathy is weakness”
I fully agree, but that US imperialism is powered by tens of millions of people who listen to Rogan and Musk every day and think the US military are like the badass heroes in the Transformers movies. We don’t make traction telling them “ARMY BAD” we make traction telling them to stop believing what they see. Carts and horses.
I don’t think it’s Rogan and Musk that are getting people to support US imperialism. It’s so pervasive it’s treated as the default. That’s what leads to images like this one.
Probably in this context: the ruling class.
The lack of class awareness here in the comic being why the use of cultural hegemony is lost.